Comments on: BYD will Supply Blade Batteries to Tesla, Toyota, Suzuki & Daimler https://carspiritpk.com/byd-supply-blade-batteries-tesla-daimler-toyota/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=byd-supply-blade-batteries-tesla-daimler-toyota Pakistan's Trusted Automobile Blog Sat, 19 Feb 2022 08:39:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: TruongNguyen https://carspiritpk.com/byd-supply-blade-batteries-tesla-daimler-toyota/#comment-8927 Sat, 19 Feb 2022 08:39:14 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=49486#comment-8927 In reply to Ali Khan.

Thank you for this! It all looks really interesting, I’m hoping to see more info and videos on this once it gets mainstream.

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By: Ali Khan https://carspiritpk.com/byd-supply-blade-batteries-tesla-daimler-toyota/#comment-8902 Fri, 18 Feb 2022 13:48:48 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=49486#comment-8902 In reply to TruongNguyen.

Hey bro. Here are some videos if you are interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFY_uqif3jY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI8XtpBmTnc

They only used a Tesla model S long range as their test vehicle. This is a start up. This is a potent prototype test and proves the viability of their claims. However there is a big difference between a single, mostly hand built, prototype and mass produced product. Also longevity of the battery pack/ battery life, stress testing and other factors will play a major role in the months and years to come.

Lets hope for the best. This seems interesting.

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By: Ali Khan https://carspiritpk.com/byd-supply-blade-batteries-tesla-daimler-toyota/#comment-8897 Fri, 18 Feb 2022 11:21:38 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=49486#comment-8897 👍 👍]]> In reply to Khurram.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G67i_Z8ukD4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RhtiPefVzM

If you are interested this time, you will find the above linked videos very informative. They might clear up some of your concerns.

I have pointed it out to you many times that mining operations are getting a lot of flak from the press and human rights groups. Things hopefully will improve.

https://carspiritpk.com/how-toyota-sneakily-spreads-anti-ev-propaganda-in-japan/#:~:text=Mining%20conditions%20are%20bad.%20They%20have%20been%20highlighted%20recently%20and%20hopefully%20things%20will%20improve

This is also leads into another thing that I have mentioned in the same link above, battery recycling is very important and many companies are finding ways to improve the process. For every KG of cobalt or manganese or nickel that is recycled from batteries, it is a KG that is not needed to be extracted.

Lithium is extracted in extremely desolate and isolated places like the Atacama Desert in Chili. If you know your geography you would know it is one of the most hostile places on earth. Not much lives there. However, even though the process is very water intensive, from an ecological stand point, it is all happening in very isolated areas that pose no threat to people or animals etc.

Oil production on the other hand is far more dangerous for the environment and people and wild life. Its extraction is done in many places even in populated areas. Communities live near oil extraction areas or even oil refineries. It is done through off-shore oil platforms or out at sea or even in forest areas etc. You must have heard of extraction of oil through fracking. Look it up. It is by far one of the most environmentally damaging processes ever. Speaking of damage, do you remember the British petroleum incident out at sea? Remember the oil field fires of the gulf war and the very real environmental damage they caused? There are very common stories of oil containers getting damaged at sea and spilling all their oil, contaminating ocean and/or shore environments. We even have cases that such accidents happen on roads where oil container trucks or petrol etc. trucks have accidents and spill all that environment damaging liquid in areas that take years to recover.

Also, with oil you are essentially taking huge amounts of carbon that is trapped underground and, through using it, you are re-releasing it into the environment; not good don’t you think?

In a year’s time, oil refining (into jet fuel petrol, diesel, plastics etc.) releases over 280 BILLION TONS of CO2 combined around the world!

Average yearly emissions for ICE cars are around 57 to 60 metric tons. For EVs it is half that at around 28 metric tons.

The other factor is maintenance. There is far less to do on EVs than on ICE cars. You own an ICE car. Just talking about engine oil; how many engines oil changes do you do in a year and where does that spent oil go? Either it is improperly disposed of or it is used by car washers to coat the underside of vehicles in oil after a wash; which in itself is damaging to the cars it is applied on and the spray that the application causes is not good for the people who are standing there and breathing it in or for the environment. The list goes on. ICE engines have so many moving parts that can, and do, go wrong it requires a lot more maintenance hence more environmental impact.

No matter if you are living in a country like ours where most electricity is produced through petrol or where it is produced through coal; It might take longer, but a point will always be reached with-in a few years of using the EV where its continued use will have much less of an impact on the environment than the continued use of an ICE car.

I know you don’t care because facts are subjective in your reality, but EVs just put an overall less of an impact on the environment than ICE cars. Deal with it!

ICE cars have had around 120 years to get to this point. EVs have had less than two decades. Give it time. With time, all processes will improve.

Lastly, your heart felt plea to Toyota to come up with the bio degradable batteries. I mentioned it to you the last time I has the pleasure of replying to one of your outstanding comments that bio degradable batteries are still in very early research phases. I hope they do become viable at some point but all facts point to the fact that they are years, if not decades, away from anything close to viable.

https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-files-a-patent-for-manual-transmission-in-evs/#:~:text=%E2%80%9Cre%2Dcompostable%20battery%E2%80%9D%20Dude%E2%80%A6.%20Come%20on

I’m a huge Sci-Fi fan. One of my favorite shows is Star Gate SG1. In that show they use a battery made by a very ancient race that is based on vacuum energy or Zero-point energy. It is all very fringe science and highly theoretical science. However, if wishing would make it so, then I hope Toyota makes one of those. In the Show, that battery, the size to a two-liter coke bottle, could power a city for hundreds of years! So, Toyota let’s get working on THAT! 👍 👍 👍

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By: Silent Soul https://carspiritpk.com/byd-supply-blade-batteries-tesla-daimler-toyota/#comment-8894 Fri, 18 Feb 2022 11:01:42 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=49486#comment-8894 so the good old Toyota on one hand is brainwashing school kids in Japan but on other hand buying blade batteries from BYD. hypocrites are they?

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By: TruongNguyen https://carspiritpk.com/byd-supply-blade-batteries-tesla-daimler-toyota/#comment-8891 Fri, 18 Feb 2022 10:13:58 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=49486#comment-8891 In reply to What about Gemini battery?.

I have never heard of this… Can you give me a source or link to this? I would like to read further into it as it sounds interesting.

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By: Khurram https://carspiritpk.com/byd-supply-blade-batteries-tesla-daimler-toyota/#comment-8889 Fri, 18 Feb 2022 04:43:24 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=49486#comment-8889 How can this battery be environment friendly if it is still using Lithium, isn’t Lithium extracted through mining? Or nowadays anything that is considered safer, by a certain group of people and they testify the process as safe for the use of specific set of humans, becomes environmentally friendly?
In my view this whole charade regarding E.V.s has been mystifying from the start, it has been coating itself under different garbs and trying very hard to hide an ugly fact. However, truth can never remain hidden it raises itself somehow and truth is both types of cars aren’t different from each other when it comes to generating pollution, one is less oblivious and is resulting in indirect affect while the other is open and is leaving a direct impact. Perhaps that is why companies like Toyota and Volk Wagon are still researching on making I.C.E. better than before, they are offering E.V.s on a limited scale like a good business trying to cash in on a market though but their core businesses remain focused on I.C.E. cars. The reason they know that it is only a matter of time before aboriginals start protesting against mining then perhaps the world is going to see how actually unfriendly an E.V. is.

P.S. It would have been more transparent if they had revealed how would they be recycling the battery or like its previous incarnations it still remains unrecyclable without use of energy and money intensive processes.
P.P.S. instead of sourcing battery from BYD, Toyota must prove itself durable by researching on creating a battery that is compostable rather than recyclable in nature, in that way at-least the battery related damage to environment could be avoided.

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By: What about Gemini battery? https://carspiritpk.com/byd-supply-blade-batteries-tesla-daimler-toyota/#comment-8887 Fri, 18 Feb 2022 02:30:58 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=49486#comment-8887 How does it compare to the Gemini battery which has been developed by a Pakistani American and been chosen by Tesla as a vendor?

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By: Not a Robot.. https://carspiritpk.com/byd-supply-blade-batteries-tesla-daimler-toyota/#comment-8885 Thu, 17 Feb 2022 22:41:22 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=49486#comment-8885 China will be the future king of Evs, believe it or not

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