Comments on: Changan UNI-V Makes its Global Debut https://carspiritpk.com/changan-uni-v-makes-its-global-debut/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=changan-uni-v-makes-its-global-debut Pakistan's Trusted Automobile Blog Mon, 29 Nov 2021 06:28:09 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: TruongNguyen https://carspiritpk.com/changan-uni-v-makes-its-global-debut/#comment-7274 Mon, 29 Nov 2021 06:28:09 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=46229#comment-7274 In reply to Ali Khan.

The most important thing to PakSuzuki would be if it’s the cheapest model with airbags available, since the whole reason why they so suddenly decided to discontinue Ravi/Bolan is because of the new WP29 standard implemented which makes airbags compulsory.

If the fifth gen comes with airbags, good for them, otherwise they’ll probably launch the DA64V model here, which is even better.

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By: Khurram https://carspiritpk.com/changan-uni-v-makes-its-global-debut/#comment-7269 Mon, 29 Nov 2021 04:47:47 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=46229#comment-7269 In reply to Ali Khan.

Now, now let’s not be hasty, I did not fully agree with you. The big IF I spoke about was not about Pak Suzuki bringing new generation here, because even if they do, it wont matter much unless the vehicle users actually accept it or have rejected the former one.
In other words, I merely said that the launch and success of newer Carry as of now remains a big question and until it is answered, we cannot expect P.S. to bring it. They have already suffered a loss in the shape of Mega Carry and they would rather not want to hurry things up. For reference, Mehran in post-2017 was not as durable as it was in 2012, its buyers and users have actually reported that its bumpers came lose if the car was operated in potholes. In other words, the car’s repair costs were negating out the effect on the fuel expenses. Pak Suzuki had no other option but to replace it because the quality was out of their hands they could not make it better. I also remember that they started testing the newly launched Alto in 2012, they took six years that is a long time.

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By: Khurram https://carspiritpk.com/changan-uni-v-makes-its-global-debut/#comment-7268 Mon, 29 Nov 2021 04:42:33 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=46229#comment-7268 In reply to Ali Khan.

About the used oil that’s the first time I have heard someone tell me that it rusts the car, it is not the first time that I have done that either. In fact, I used to do that with the Baleno, Corolla tenth gen and even Bolan. In other words, the technique has been in use by me for thirty years and it has always left great results. Besides, commercial transporters also do that all the time and there vehicles seem fine as well.
However, I admit that the frequency of service and overall conditions in which the car runs would make the difference, dustier the conditions more chances of dirt settling on the car parts. Anyways, not getting it oiled and merely having it washed with salty water would also quicken the accumulation of rust so either ways the outcome is more or less the same.

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By: Ali Khan https://carspiritpk.com/changan-uni-v-makes-its-global-debut/#comment-7263 Sun, 28 Nov 2021 15:17:50 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=46229#comment-7263 ]]> In reply to TruongNguyen.

Very true. Especially about the interior. People use this cheap interior plastic shiner “luster” thing. It is silicone based and is a dirt magnet. Also as you pointed out the end result is cracking. Get a more quality shiner and cleaner that is not silicon based that does not add that cheap “glass” shine and keeps the interior clean and with its original look. Much better and the plastics late longer.
Avoid the oil spray at all costs.
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By: TruongNguyen https://carspiritpk.com/changan-uni-v-makes-its-global-debut/#comment-7260 Sun, 28 Nov 2021 12:41:31 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=46229#comment-7260 In reply to Ali Khan.

Correct!

Some used JDMs already come with undercoating from the factory, which does it’s job of keeping the elements from contacting the bare underside of the vehicle pretty well. Most cheap vehicles don’t usually have this, but they are always painted on the underside, leaving some sort of rust and element protection underneath.

The “spraying oil” thing can also apply to the engine and interior; a lot of people cover/coat their engines and dashboards in oil, which isn’t a great idea. Oil can become a huge dust and dirt magnet easily if applied to the engine, and overtime this dirt and debris then acts like a heat insulator around the engine, preventing the engine from effectively cooling itself thru passive metal heat conduction, thus causing more overheating issues.

The dashboard and interior plastic panels in a vehicle already come with plastic oils in their pores and don’t need to be replaced with sprayed oil. If you do replace these oils, you make the plastics more prone to cracking and becoming more and more smoother and texture-less, giving it that ugly shiny plastic look that is common with oiled dashes. Plus a shiny dash is a dangerous driving hazard. You wouldn’t want to be blinded by the shine of your dashboard while driving under street lights or at a very sunny day, haha.

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By: Ali Khan https://carspiritpk.com/changan-uni-v-makes-its-global-debut/#comment-7259 Sun, 28 Nov 2021 08:20:42 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=46229#comment-7259 In reply to Khurram.

One other thing Khurram.
You have said that you do put used oil on the underside of your vehicle. A lot of people do that. However, I would suggest to please reconsider that.
Engine oil has a lot of additives to benefit the health of your engine. It even has “detergents” to put it simply which help to keep the inside of the tracks in which the oil flows, clean. That is one of the reasons why engine oil become black as it ages. It is doing its job. In used engine oil, all these thing have broken down and it does become acidic.
The simplest reason for not doing so is, by adding a layer of oil to the underside, you are actually attracting more dirt and grim from the road and enabling it to stick more easily to the underside of your vehicle. That means more dirt and stuff stuck in areas that should be dry. for example, in the leaf springs or shocks or other moving parts. Over time it build up and will cause a lot of unnecessary repair costs.
Secondly and more dangerous is the acidic part of the used oil. When it is put on the under carriage of the vehicle, over time it will eat into the tough undercoating that is present on the vehicles and eventually get to the metal where rust will set in.
The other more dangerous parts of this is, the acidic oil is really bad for rubber parts such as axel boots (goda) an other rubber lines such as water hoses or fuel lines or even break lines. This oil spray weakens them.
To anyone, I will recommend to not to do this as it causes more harm than good in the long run.

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By: TruongNguyen https://carspiritpk.com/changan-uni-v-makes-its-global-debut/#comment-7258 Sun, 28 Nov 2021 08:18:06 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=46229#comment-7258 😂]]> In reply to Khurram.

So I have to taste snow to know if it is in fact, salty or not to prove to you that Northern vehicles have to be undercoated? Did you first taste sea water to learn that cars have to be rust proof in coastal areas?? Your knowledge of the fact that sea water is salty wasn’t enough, you had to taste it to confirm it??

Now I understand why you are so hell bent on demanding Chinese vehicles to be road tested to the moon and back so YOU can be assured that they are good vehicles 🤣😂

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By: Ali Khan https://carspiritpk.com/changan-uni-v-makes-its-global-debut/#comment-7256 Sun, 28 Nov 2021 08:02:56 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=46229#comment-7256 In reply to Khurram.

Well I’m glad that we agree. Also, yes, considering the history of our local assemblers, it is a big IF whether they will bring this here or not. Let us see. Like I said if Pak Suzuki DO bring them here and they DO flood the market with parts, parts prices will not be that much of an issue.

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By: Ali Khan https://carspiritpk.com/changan-uni-v-makes-its-global-debut/#comment-7255 Sun, 28 Nov 2021 07:55:43 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=46229#comment-7255 ]]> In reply to TruongNguyen.

Thanks bro. The part about the XP-V, I did not know that. Thanks for the info.
You are right. that vehicle has been in the market for some time and people are used to it.
Suzuki will do well to consider bring in that gen of the carry to Pakistan if they are serious about replacing the aging ravi and bolan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_Carry#Tenth_generation_(DA52/DB52/DA62/DA63/DA64/DA65;_1999)

Parts availability, shape, all suggest it will be quite successful. Also as it is still being produced in China as a cheap work vehicle, and now we have the belt road and trade with china, it will probably be very cost effective as well.
Now how do we tell Pak Suzuki to put their thinking caps on and seriously consider it?
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By: Khurram https://carspiritpk.com/changan-uni-v-makes-its-global-debut/#comment-7254 Sun, 28 Nov 2021 06:25:50 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=46229#comment-7254 In reply to Ali Khan.

One thing I just thought about, it may sound far-fetched but well conceptually, it is there, it is called life-cycle and per this a product is designed to operate over a certain period without costing too much in repair.
I believe that in Japan, people are required by law to have their cars replaced / repaired after passage of certain period because it is considered risky to drive a car after that. What if J.D.M. are designed to run well for that period and after that it all depends on the type of care you take for the car, the more you love it the better it is going to run.
I mean that I have seen rust on them that are running over here, in fact all the vehicles to some extent do get it if due care is not taken. I apply used oil frequently on car’s underside edges. Besides, my cousin’s Honda J.D.M., driven over 160,000 kilometers, had developed a severe corrosion in some parts, they now have the Changan, they were forced to sell the JDM because it would have then not fetched a good amount. What do you think? Is it possible? Can it happen?

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