Comments on: Changan Wins ‘China Heart Engine Award’ for 5th Consecutive Year https://carspiritpk.com/changan-wins-china-heart-engine-award-for-5th-consecutive-year/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=changan-wins-china-heart-engine-award-for-5th-consecutive-year Pakistan's Trusted Automobile Blog Sat, 20 Nov 2021 10:11:39 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Ali Khan https://carspiritpk.com/changan-wins-china-heart-engine-award-for-5th-consecutive-year/#comment-7073 Sat, 20 Nov 2021 10:11:39 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=45890#comment-7073 πŸ‘πŸ‘ Buddy!!! That was the best one yet! Your propensity for verbal vomit is... Awe inspiring! Your ability to twist and mish-mash facts, or the complete lack of facts, and then make your own "alternative facts" and realities; you are truly gifted in the grift bro! Kudos πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘]]> In reply to Khurram.

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Buddy!!! That was the best one yet!

Your propensity for verbal vomit is… Awe inspiring!

Your ability to twist and mish-mash facts, or the complete lack of facts, and then make your own “alternative facts” and realities; you are truly gifted in the grift bro!

Kudos πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘

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By: TruongNguyen https://carspiritpk.com/changan-wins-china-heart-engine-award-for-5th-consecutive-year/#comment-7068 Sat, 20 Nov 2021 08:16:01 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=45890#comment-7068 πŸ˜‚πŸ€£πŸ€£ itna bhi ab hyper mat ho, why are you taking this whole thing so seriously?? Here's a suggestion: If you think me or anyone else is wrong with their opinion, just ignore! why even bother calling us mentally retarded, liars, cheats, paindus, duffers, etc etc. Kiu apna energy zaya kar rahe ho?? itna lamba caps lock rage comment likhne ki kia zarurat. Faltu me time waste kar rahe ho, mujhe kia zaroorat ye sab parh ke πŸ™„]]> In reply to Khurram.

Oye araam se bhai πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ€£πŸ€£

itna bhi ab hyper mat ho, why are you taking this whole thing so seriously??

Here’s a suggestion:

If you think me or anyone else is wrong with their opinion, just ignore! why even bother calling us mentally retarded, liars, cheats, paindus, duffers, etc etc.
Kiu apna energy zaya kar rahe ho??

itna lamba caps lock rage comment likhne ki kia zarurat. Faltu me time waste kar rahe ho, mujhe kia zaroorat ye sab parh ke πŸ™„

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By: TruongNguyen https://carspiritpk.com/changan-wins-china-heart-engine-award-for-5th-consecutive-year/#comment-7067 Sat, 20 Nov 2021 08:09:28 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=45890#comment-7067 </span> Also, I comment here to give my opinion, not hope that one day Chairman of IMC will come and read my comment and magically reduce their prices just cause I hoped so. πŸ™„]]> In reply to Khurram.

By the way, it is not even illegal to increase the car price because it is their product and they can sell it at whatever rate they want. They are not making you buy them

Then don’t complain and cry about it. Simple πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

Also, I comment here to give my opinion, not hope that one day Chairman of IMC will come and read my comment and magically reduce their prices just cause I hoped so. πŸ™„

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By: Khurram https://carspiritpk.com/changan-wins-china-heart-engine-award-for-5th-consecutive-year/#comment-7055 Sat, 20 Nov 2021 03:26:17 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=45890#comment-7055 In reply to TruongNguyen.

A very good suggestion mr elder, firstly, did you read about the prayer part and I not wanting a change other than price reduction? Are you too proud to believe in the power of prayers? Moreover and forgive me, but you also are posting comments on the blog, why do you do that if it is of no use?
Aren’t you being naΓ―ve in giving me such an immature suggestion? I wouldn’t say child because even a child is a more sharp reader than you are.
I suggested you lead the change because you are always acting a know it all, you seem to be having a problem with our businessman, and what they are offering. Since you and your friends seem to be criticising them also meant to me that you have something not them, thus, my suggestion to you then shouldn’t be bizarre as you have implied skills presence in yourself by lambasting I.M.C., PakSuzuki and Atlas. I on the other hand have criticised your actions, most of them are lies.
By the way, it is not even illegal to increase the car price because it is their product and they can sell it at whatever rate they want. They are not making you buy them

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By: Khurram https://carspiritpk.com/changan-wins-china-heart-engine-award-for-5th-consecutive-year/#comment-7054 Sat, 20 Nov 2021 03:25:59 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=45890#comment-7054 In reply to TruongNguyen.

You know something, you are the biggest liar that I have ever met, by the way, you at-least are a bad egg and your comment proves it. Firstly, you say I misguide, wasn’t it you who claimed that due to lower weight to power ratio 1.2 City would suffer from premature repair costs? You even stated the issue with 1.3 Corolla, when the major number of car buyers are negating this instance. Moreover, should I remind you about the comment over seatbelt in Bolan and Ravi? It amazes me that these actions are not falling under misguidance. Secondly, you have taken everything into a wrong angle, why do you do that? It is unethical and sinful. I HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR FROM Firstly, is every Pakistani like you? My dear once again you are being an uppity. I have clearly said that my assumption about application of education has been based on the comments posted by you and your friends. Secondly, for rule breaking I said that almost most Pakistanis living in Pakistan is breaking them. Is C.E.R.N. in Pakistan?.
TELL ME IS THERE NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PAKISTANIS PARTLY, REPRESENTED BY YOU, APPLYING THEIR EDUCATION AND ALL PAKISTANIS APPLYING THEIR EDUCATION IN GENERAL? TO ME AT-LEAST THESE ARE VERY TWO SEPARATE POINTS IF YOU MISUNDERSTOOD THEM AS USUAL THEN I AM NOT AT FAULT. IN OTHER WORDS, I MEANT MOST PAKISTANIS ACT IRRATIONALLY DURING DRIVING AND THE EDUCATED CLASS LIKE THE THREE OF YOU CANNOT WEATHER TECHNICAL KNOWLEDGE REQUIRED FOR CAR MAKING. In a nutshell the mention of education was meant to be a slight over your education and its application. On the other hand, requests for feature rich cars from people who want to break rules were ridiculed by me in the shape of reminding you about the level of rule breaking that is becoming common by the day in Pakistan.
HOWEVER, YOU MIXED THIS POINT WITH A GENERAL LEVEL OF EDUCATION AND ITS APPLICATION. MOREOVER, YOU AGAIN SEEM TO BE IGNORING THE CIVILITY / ETHICS / SOCIAL ETIQUETTE THAT I HAVE ALWAYS WRITTEN ABOUT AND THIS VERY QUALITY IS THE REASON THAT LED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF NUCLEAR BOMB.
HAVE YOU THAT? YOU CALLED ME A CHILD NOW? YOU ASSUMED I WOULD DO UNIMAGINABLE THING TO MY XLI, YOU EVEN CLAIMED THAT 1.3L COROLLA WOULD BREAK DOWN, AND ALSO SUPERIMPOSED IT ON 1.2L CITY, PREMATURELY BECAUSE OF LOW POWER TO WEIGHT RATIO, THIS FACT IS NOT EVEN ACCEPTED BY GENERAL PUBLIC. HOWEVER, WE SHOULD BELIEVE IT BECAUSE YOU SAID IT. IS THAT YOUR EDUCATION AND ITS APPLICATION. YOU EVEN ASSUMED I AM A ROTTEN DRIVER AND THAT IS WHY MY ALTO FAILED. YET, YOU SAY THAT YOU ARE NOT ROTTEN FOR ASSUMING THOSE THINGS ABOUT ME. ISN’T THAT A PURE IRONY THAT YOU SHOULD BE CONFIDENT THAT YOU ALONE ARE SUPER AND YET YOU WANT ME TO LEAD A CHANGE BUT DO NOTHING YOURSELF DESPITE HAVING AN UPPER HAND ON EVERYTHING THAN ME. ISN’T THIS A DIVIDE, WHY NOT ACCEPT ONE FACT?
YOU EVEN HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY COMMENTS BUT CAN’T AVOID POSTING THEM YOURSELF, IS THAT NOT AN ASSUMPTION THAT SOMEONE SHOULD READ YOU BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU ARE NOT ROTTEN BUT SOMEONE WOULD NOT READ MY COMMENT BECAUSE THEY DON’T COME TO THIS BLOG. WOW, JUST WOW,
P.S. YES I POSSES A VICTIM MIND SET, IS THAT WRONG? I AM PROUD OF IT BECAUSE I CAN SAY THIS CONFIDENTLY, I HAVE NEVER STARTED THE DISCUSSION AND CAUSED YOU MENTAL, YOU DID, YOU SUGGESTED THAT I AM A BAD DRIVER AND IN RESPONSE I HAVE ALSO TRIED MAKING FUN OF YOU, MAKE YOU SEE WHAT YOU REALLY ARE. HOWEVER, I CAN SEE THAT IT IS FOOLISH AND WASTE OF TIME BECAUSE YOUR HABIT IS TO CRITICISE BUT NOT OFFER A REALISTIC ASSISTANCE.

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By: Khurram https://carspiritpk.com/changan-wins-china-heart-engine-award-for-5th-consecutive-year/#comment-7053 Sat, 20 Nov 2021 03:25:43 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=45890#comment-7053 In reply to Ali Khan.

I do not agree that you have a respect for society, because you also seem to insult people who do not hold your views. for starters, I rant eh? Whereas that book of a comment of yours is okay. Why duality? Need I remind you of your recent actions? You have a knack to misunderstand other people’s views and present them in another way. For example, you told me that you have a good experience with J.D.M. when I was clearly talking about Bolan and Ravi benefiting their actual users, commercial transporters, you boldly negated rust problems. Was that right? Were you acting a respectful member of society? Don’t your educated brain knew then that your J.D.M. has never housed a Waves triplet in it and nor it is being used on commercial bases. Why then did you post a rubbish question over my comment? Is Bolan’s commercial use comparable with your residential use of J.D.M.? Even in this comment you are placing a Mehran next to Ravi and Bolan. Is that respect for two different members of society? I have always said all along that you always ice things up Mr. Ali Khan and yet you say you have respect for other people. Maybe you need to re-define what respect is and then make a claim over it. 
You did that even now, you said that I meant that our army knows about our peoples potential and political leaders don’t. Is that respect for my argument? That is what your interpretation of my comment, not what I meant. The army teaches its people to be respectful that is what i said and i also added that they reject rule breakers from living among them and the wronged person respect their decision, that is why their top cadres are so rule abiding in the first place because their bottom tier of people are so respectful and disciplined. Whereas you cannot even live without turning over my comment and yet you say you respect society. Maybe I am not part of society? Right? As for political leaders, where are they coming from? Heaven, no my dear, if you are so knowledgeable about what Allah says then aren’t you aware that leaders would be imposed on you based on your actions. I know, you would now milk my argument into another shape and re-present it. However, this much I can say you are a disrespectful person and your this comment along with others is proving it. 
You even now are presenting my comments over education in the whole new and twisted light. You are giving me examples of Pakistanis over whose caliber I never even raised a questioned. So here is a refresher to what I actually said and how you understood it and presented it. Firstly, is every Pakistani like you? My dear once again you are being an uppity. I have clearly said that my assumption about application of education has been based on the comments posted by you and your friends. Secondly, for rule breaking I said that almost most Pakistanis living in Pakistan is breaking them. Is C.E.R.N. in Pakistan? Besides, do these two statements sound similar to the context that your words are now giving? 
You also say that is asking for change a crime?
Firstly, I agree, Seeking change is not illegal. but why by people like you? Why a person of different class is speaking for a very different class of people? You are not a low income class you are a rich person who can afford to visit website every three hours and post counter comment just to convince a stranger. Otherwise why would a Mehran next to Ravi or Bolan. For one thing both are used targeted at a different type of user bases. Bolan and Ravi are for commercial purpose, while Mehran is for family use. Second reason is that buyers of Mehran were already complaining about rising price but falling durability of the car. Can you say it the same for buyers of both Ravi and Bolan you cannot because you are not from that class of society and therefore, due to lack of practical knowledge are not in position to comment on it. I already requested you to get in touch with real user. Did you do that? 
You also spiced-up my comment on Lexus LS 400, by saying that I hold double standard and have not accepted Changan as good even after it running for 100,000 kilometers. Was that respect? Even a ranting person can know that 100,000 miles are way more higher than 100,000 kilometers. Besides, LS 400 was tested by the customers, actual car users who verified its smoothness, have such customers fallen under Changan’s belt? You knew what I meant yet you ridiculed my comment along with your friends. Anyways long rant short, in future please do not misquote, do not misrepresent or else accept a fact that your social etiquette and technical knowledge is too low to change anything. It would be wise to leave it to wiser of you to leave it the people that decided to re-offer Bolan and Ravi over the loud protest of commercial transporters, I was one of them too.

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By: Ali Khan https://carspiritpk.com/changan-wins-china-heart-engine-award-for-5th-consecutive-year/#comment-7047 Fri, 19 Nov 2021 11:13:49 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=45890#comment-7047 In reply to Khurram.

They have love for country, they have respect for society, do you or I have that?”
I’m proud to say, YES I have. But do you?
And please don’t go into one of your rants on this point because the above are your own words, doubting yourself and casting doubt on others.
The point is not who “arranged” or “backed” the achievements I mentioned. The people who are responsible for achieving all those things are Pakistani civilians.
I gave you an example of CERN and how, even now, Pakistani scientist are active in cutting edge research there. This is happening now; by our civilian scientists. Nothing to do with the army.
So, by your argument, the army knows the potential of the people but our leaders sadly don’t. So this explains why we are where we are. We have the potential but are very underutilized.
You also said something in an other comment. That you are not interested in changing things and you like it as it is. Why? is wanting for something better a crime? is pointing out companies and business men who are taking advantage of bad governance and very bad industry rules a crime?
You say you are fighting it through prayer. Prayer is good. But even Allah says struggle for your Haqq. Point out and stand against ziadati. The answer is not for us to just accept the status quo and bury our heads in the sand.
Why should we be ok with outdated cars such as the Mehran or Ravi or Bolan? Cars that were introduced when our parents were young or in the case of some of our younger readers, cars that came out when their grandparents were young?
Why should we not highlight the differences in quality and equipment that exists here and in other markets? why should we not ask what are we paying for and why paying so much?

https://carspiritpk.com/mehran-to-alto-660cc-for-pak-suzuki-the-change-was-good/

Read that. It is clear that people want and respond to change for the better. The new alto beat the sales records for the Mehran.

If we are talking about change. First it is just good friendly discussion. Secondly it is a chance to exchange information and learn. Yes, I do hope someone in power does come and takes notice of all this.
The point of having an industry is for it to move forwards and for it to be a positive for the nation. Here, for over thirty years, the old players kept us isolated and locked, exploiting the ignorance of our leaders. Now it is to the point where people like yourself are shunning advancement and saying you want things to remain as they are. Why my friend? don’t you think you or we deserve better?

Even you had an urge to go the wrong way a few days ago.”
Buddy do you know what a joke is? TruongNguyen and I were just having a little fun with something you said over and over; That people in Pakistan are all driving on the wrong side of the road into on coming traffic. It was just for fun. When you have no other argument, please stop taking jokes out of context.

And you are right. Any company, even the Chinese along with their local partners, will take full advantage of us if the government is not awake with good policies and monitoring them. Again, that is why we would like better rules for this and all industry in Pakistan.

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By: Ali Khan https://carspiritpk.com/changan-wins-china-heart-engine-award-for-5th-consecutive-year/#comment-7046 Fri, 19 Nov 2021 09:52:30 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=45890#comment-7046 ]]> In reply to TruongNguyen.

Sad but true.πŸ˜”

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By: TruongNguyen https://carspiritpk.com/changan-wins-china-heart-engine-award-for-5th-consecutive-year/#comment-7045 Fri, 19 Nov 2021 06:57:20 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=45890#comment-7045 ]]> In reply to Khurram.

Khurram, there are many gifted Pakistanis and good Pakistani people. Just because you haven’t seen any and just because you don’t think of yourself as one doesn’t mean we’re all rotten eggs. πŸ˜•

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By: TruongNguyen https://carspiritpk.com/changan-wins-china-heart-engine-award-for-5th-consecutive-year/#comment-7044 Fri, 19 Nov 2021 06:54:46 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=45890#comment-7044 ]]> In reply to Ali Khan.

Khurram just has a victim mindset, he thinks every Pakistani on earth is as pathetic and ignorant as he is. πŸ™„

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