Comments on: Combined Figures Trend Defies the Purpose of Sharing Sales Stats https://carspiritpk.com/combined-figures-defies-the-purpose-of-sharing-sales-stats/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=combined-figures-defies-the-purpose-of-sharing-sales-stats Pakistan's Trusted Automobile Blog Fri, 05 Aug 2022 12:08:28 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Khurram https://carspiritpk.com/combined-figures-defies-the-purpose-of-sharing-sales-stats/#comment-8954 Sun, 20 Feb 2022 03:51:01 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=49497#comment-8954 In reply to Silent Soul.

So, you think that Allah S.W.T. shall only be helping those who shall be buying Toyota or Suzuki, well, the answer is no.
Therefore, like I told you before, I am going to repeat that again you should be praying to Allah SWT, it is the only golden rule, breakers of this rule have always suffered and shall always be suffering. Recall the posers of selfie in Kashmir, they parked the car in the middle of the road and became a cause of shar for other people and became a model for us all. We must always abide by rules and that’s final, do not become part of shar and you shall be rewarded by Allah S.W.T..
I have noticed people like Truong, Ali Khan and Not a robot writing and hurting peoples feelings, do you think that they can expect anything better from Allah S.W.T.? Well, in my view they can’t because they are imparting a shar and what’s more most off it is unwarranted and self-initiated.

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By: Maaz Abbasi https://carspiritpk.com/combined-figures-defies-the-purpose-of-sharing-sales-stats/#comment-8946 Sat, 19 Feb 2022 13:57:41 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=49497#comment-8946 the article points to very debatable subject. CSP users should share these articles on social media as much as possible so they get more attention of concerned

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By: Silent Soul https://carspiritpk.com/combined-figures-defies-the-purpose-of-sharing-sales-stats/#comment-8932 Sat, 19 Feb 2022 09:06:01 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=49497#comment-8932 In reply to Khurram.

ur talking about Toyota but what about those suffering in the hands of Al-Haj group? ironically they are damaging the name of Hajees, call them Al Haaj and look at their malpractices. Changan is also not an exception so customers who were supporting new comers for a change are badly suffering

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By: Check the sellers, not the buyers https://carspiritpk.com/combined-figures-defies-the-purpose-of-sharing-sales-stats/#comment-8919 Sat, 19 Feb 2022 05:44:10 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=49497#comment-8919 " instead of asking for blood of those who manage to buy cars. Penalizing buyers is a stupid idea, it is a the supply side that should get a cold hard look.]]> In reply to Saima Shah.

Quote: trace cnics of those who regularly book vehicles so why not take action on them?

I don’t think it is the right path. There are several people in Pakistan who own a motorcycle and a car. There are quite a few who buy a new car every year which is not against any law or ethics. In some families there are 3 cars, one for the uncle, one for the auntie and one for taking the kids to school/driver with guests. Commercial transporters having sole proprietorship business also frequently buy vehicles. Penalizing people who buy a new car ever so often doesn’t make any sense unless a continuous scalper behaviour is observed.

It is so paradoxical: People who pay own can’t be scalpers. People who wait for delivery can be scalpers because they can wait for a few months for delivery then instantly sell it for a higher price. So the ethical behaviour can easily convert into an unethical behaviour, but there is no justification against them: maybe by the time they got the delivery of the vehicle their requirements changed or some other product appeared in market which is more suitable for them.

There can be a lot of justifications for buying a lot of new cars and persecuting them can quickly become a human rights abuse. So let’s not go down that rabbit hole as it is ultimately fruitless: the scope of plausible justifications is so big that buyers will come up with a valid justification every time.

When you say “take action”, what kind of “action” do you mean?

Basically this is a supply and demand problem. As long as demand is higher than supply, scalping, premiums, increasing prices etc. etc. will happen and scalping will get rewarded. As long as supply meets demand, scalping will automagically be discouraged since sellers will have to give discounts. So let’s just learn Economics 101 and solve the problem “the way it should be solved™” instead of asking for blood of those who manage to buy cars. Penalizing buyers is a stupid idea, it is a the supply side that should get a cold hard look.

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By: Khurram https://carspiritpk.com/combined-figures-defies-the-purpose-of-sharing-sales-stats/#comment-8917 Sat, 19 Feb 2022 05:22:53 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=49497#comment-8917 In reply to No no no.

Are you the same person who claimed that Daewoo semi has an upgraded headlight despite the available brochure telling another story?
If so, then once again you are merely writing illogically. Now tell me do you clap with one hand or two hands? I think you know the answer well. Therefore, I am correct in saying that one of the biggest manipulator is the user of the system and customer is one and he is equally part of the corrupt practice. Therefore customer is not poor, rather he is the master who is trying to pull the strings of a puppet.

P.S. By the way, whatever I keep on posting, does it matters to you? I do not lie on the other hand you just did. So please grow up and ignore comments rather than supposing presenting yourself as an exploited person.

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By: Khurram https://carspiritpk.com/combined-figures-defies-the-purpose-of-sharing-sales-stats/#comment-8916 Sat, 19 Feb 2022 05:21:04 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=49497#comment-8916 In reply to Silent Soul.

They shall get their car, my cousin got one Altis after six months, it was the time that they promised him. Moreover, several people in Baitussalam masjid got their Yaris’ on the promised delivery dates, maybe if you ask Allah SWT instead of taking a short cut then you are going to be able to remain safe from a shar.
By the way, you act with a shar, you get a shar that’s the rule, good luck observing it.

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By: Saima Shah https://carspiritpk.com/combined-figures-defies-the-purpose-of-sharing-sales-stats/#comment-8915 Sat, 19 Feb 2022 03:10:46 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=49497#comment-8915 great article & even great discussion in comments. govt should come forward and assign bureau of statistics to keep count how many cars are produced/ sold & registered every month. things will be much more transparent. also i think its easy to trace cnics of those who regularly book vehicles so why not take action on them? this way bogus bookings will be eradicated too.

btw thats what i like about this site, car spirit content is very unique and hard hitting and comments are not moderated. i challenge u try posting something similar in comments of pakwheels blog and they’ll make sure it never appears

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By: Ali Khan https://carspiritpk.com/combined-figures-defies-the-purpose-of-sharing-sales-stats/#comment-8904 Fri, 18 Feb 2022 14:46:11 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=49497#comment-8904 In the case of these local assemblers, 1 + 1 does not equal 2. What they are hoping for is that they can get away with showing that 1 + 1 equals 11! 😂]]> Sir the picture that you have chosen for the article is spot on. 👍

In the case of these local assemblers, 1 + 1 does not equal 2.

What they are hoping for is that they can get away with showing that 1 + 1 equals 11! 😂

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By: TruongNguyen https://carspiritpk.com/combined-figures-defies-the-purpose-of-sharing-sales-stats/#comment-8901 Fri, 18 Feb 2022 13:35:24 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=49497#comment-8901 In reply to Not a Robot...

That day will probably come soon when even the “Awaam ki Sawari” will become too unreasonably expensive to own (just like the Yaris, imagine having a barebones basic people’s car become a status icon) so they’ll start combining sales figures of their entire fleet because nobody can afford any of them while they play “play pretend” to show that they’re still doing good in sales.

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By: TruongNguyen https://carspiritpk.com/combined-figures-defies-the-purpose-of-sharing-sales-stats/#comment-8900 Fri, 18 Feb 2022 13:31:45 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=49497#comment-8900 In reply to Govt can take this from the hands of assemblers.

But then, you also see the hypocrisy of the government knowing the power they already possess and the fact that they can question these assemblers about everything.

We all know and remember when MG was heavily questioned and intercepted regarding the declaration of the prices of their vehicles when importing. Back then they took full advantage of the “Right of Access to Information Act, 2017″ wholly. They showed all the documents, complete import price before and after customs duty applies on them to the entire country.

However, when it comes to finding out how many of our so called “local” vehicles are actually local, how many of them actually use local sourced parts and what percentage of parts in them are locally manufactured versus imported and then assembled, and most importantly, how many of them actually get sold and delivered versus getting booked. In this scenario, our government is completely deaf and blind and has zero idea of any of these things. Why is that so?

Why is it when it came to questioning the new entrant, they had information on them and their deeds down to the decimal point, even knowing exactly where they imported these vehicles from and how much of them, but when it comes to the old three, they have absolutely no clue of their antics??

It becomes even worse when you remember that our dear super competent government actually listened to these importers/assemblers more than they have listened to anyone else, and the used car imports closing and Auto Policy has been made and done after listening to them and them only and nobody else…

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