Comments on: Elon Musk Praises Chinese Automakers- Calls Them “Most Competitive in the World” https://carspiritpk.com/elon-musk-praises-chinese-automakers-calls-them-most-competitive-in-the-world/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=elon-musk-praises-chinese-automakers-calls-them-most-competitive-in-the-world Pakistan's Trusted Automobile Blog Wed, 22 Dec 2021 10:20:27 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Ali Khan https://carspiritpk.com/elon-musk-praises-chinese-automakers-calls-them-most-competitive-in-the-world/#comment-7792 Wed, 22 Dec 2021 10:20:27 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=47205#comment-7792 In reply to Chinese policies.

They are nationalistic and that is leading them to look at others and think “we can do that (better)”
The perception of low quality; yes it is there but it is fast changing. Even big companies like Volkswagen are wary of what these guys can do especially in the EV market. Especially in EVs they are moving at lighting speed. Even Elon Musk can see that. Chinese companies are a genuine threat.

https://netherlandsnewslive.com/the-chinese-are-coming-all-pure-electric-car/248182/

The above article has a lot of Chinese EV cars and SUVs. Check them out on YouTube. I’ll link a few reviews here if you are interested.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/chinas-electric-carmakers-make-their-move-europe-2021-09-30/

https://techcrunch.com/2021/11/18/ev-upstart-xpeng-is-expanding-beyond-china/

https://electricvehicleweb.com/hongqi-e115-designed-by-former-rolls-royce-designer-to-be-produced-as-an-electric-suv/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BvevMKcXmc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14XESFFx46M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKqv9KY4pSU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3zvINazMXg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cue9gCZcrTo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mspqm8E9nGc

FYI. The Hongqi is the Luxury arm of FAW Group. The FAW vehicle that we got here was the V2. Compare that to the Hongqi EV SUV. They have come a long way in very short time.

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By: Chinese policies https://carspiritpk.com/elon-musk-praises-chinese-automakers-calls-them-most-competitive-in-the-world/#comment-7775 Tue, 21 Dec 2021 14:15:35 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=47205#comment-7775 In reply to Ali Khan.

Noteworthy is that Chinese policies are nationalistic. They are strict towards foreign brands and lax towards their national brands. This helped them grow their local industry, whether it is IT, medical, automotive, ship-building or whichever. This in turn is not beneficial for their export markets where they have long been competing on being the cheapest but at a lower quality level.

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By: Really deserve? https://carspiritpk.com/elon-musk-praises-chinese-automakers-calls-them-most-competitive-in-the-world/#comment-7774 Tue, 21 Dec 2021 14:08:58 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=47205#comment-7774 In reply to Ali Khan.

we deserve better

As we have been gaslighted multiple times in the comments section about Pakistanis being allegedly low education, low moral standard, lawless lawbreakers and dishonest, therefore not deserving of any improvements, I hereby concur that the sentiment that “we deserve better” is not shared by all and sundry.

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By: Ali Khan https://carspiritpk.com/elon-musk-praises-chinese-automakers-calls-them-most-competitive-in-the-world/#comment-7765 Tue, 21 Dec 2021 10:45:24 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=47205#comment-7765 In reply to TruongNguyen.

That is what makes my blood boil.
Why are we ok with that. Why is resale the be all and end all of everything?
Why are we ok with being a dumpster for old models and tech?
Why are we ok with such low quality, non to very low safety standards, long delivery times and the lanat of own?
We must realise we deserve better.

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By: TruongNguyen https://carspiritpk.com/elon-musk-praises-chinese-automakers-calls-them-most-competitive-in-the-world/#comment-7762 Tue, 21 Dec 2021 08:57:02 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=47205#comment-7762 ]]> In reply to Ali Khan.

Exactly! And not to mention that Tesla there is a premium EV car brand (well, 50,000$ for a Tesla 3 is a premium anywhere if you ask me) so these customers questioning their high priced vehicle’s build quality is highly deserved. It is the same thing as a Civic customer complaining about their 40 lacs vehicle having sub standard welding and panel issues here in Pakistan, but over there, they’re actually solving the problem thru the government/consumer court.

They are fighting for their consumer rights from a foreign company and here we are told to just be happy with what these “Japanese” assemblers are throwing at us because “it’s the best they could give us”. 🙄

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By: Ali Khan https://carspiritpk.com/elon-musk-praises-chinese-automakers-calls-them-most-competitive-in-the-world/#comment-7758 Tue, 21 Dec 2021 06:17:50 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=47205#comment-7758 In reply to Silent Soul.

Exactly!

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By: Silent Soul https://carspiritpk.com/elon-musk-praises-chinese-automakers-calls-them-most-competitive-in-the-world/#comment-7755 Tue, 21 Dec 2021 05:10:29 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=47205#comment-7755 In reply to Ali Khan.

i see the point. although the news may not be related to our market but by posting such articles at least the blogger is trying to make a point, why can’t our leaders & govt become sincere in the auto sector?

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By: Ali Khan https://carspiritpk.com/elon-musk-praises-chinese-automakers-calls-them-most-competitive-in-the-world/#comment-7754 Tue, 21 Dec 2021 05:05:42 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=47205#comment-7754 I’m reminded of the old verse:

“kudi ko kar boland ittna”

The Chinese through the right governance, ideals, drive and technological advancements etc. have now made themselves such a power and raised the quality of life so much for their people, that the richest man in the world has to go groveling to them and has to “play nice”.

Now however, Tesla is facing a backlash over its electric car business in China. Recently a Chinese court ordered Tesla to refund the purchase price of Model S to the customer plus three times the amount in the form of compensation – making a total of 1.5 million yuan, because Tesla has allegedly sold substandard used-car to its customer.”

Aby dekh rahy ho my dear leaders. This is how to hold the companies responsible. Here you allow them to sell to your people what ever crap they find in the bargain bin at extreme prices. And they make you think they are benefiting the nation… and you believe them!!!

Here’s and example, the motorbike prices have gone up by an average of 10K to 30K. Do you know the only “new thing” we are paying for are stickers or maybe a plastic piece worth pennies?

In March, China’s ministry of industry and information technology, demanded Tesla to ensure product consistency, quality and safety. But the Chinese customers complained that they were getting inferior cars from Tesla while some buyers pointed out that the control units in their cars run on HW2.5 chips, which are less advanced than the HW3.0 chips listed on the spec sheet.”

Are you still paying attention. You demand, they obey. You government, they business; under your supervision.

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