Comments on: Toyota Shares Sink After Fraudulent Emissions Data Scandal https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-shares-sink-after-fraudulent-emissions-data-scandal/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=toyota-shares-sink-after-fraudulent-emissions-data-scandal Pakistan's Trusted Automobile Blog Sat, 12 Mar 2022 09:00:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Ali Khan https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-shares-sink-after-fraudulent-emissions-data-scandal/#comment-9377 Sat, 12 Mar 2022 09:00:40 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=50127#comment-9377 </strong> Moving on. So, what you are saying is, something that has been acknowledged by the world media and by experts the world over, actually did not happen? It was just a case of a camera pointed at the engine and the camera was running for 259 hours and NOT the engine? 🤔🤯 Why? did they loop the video? couldn't anyone tell that the engine was off? Why give changan the record and not the camera company who's camera it was being used? You say some one wrote about it. Please, if you don't mind, can you please share something so we can see how the whole world was duped and only you picked up on the lie?]]> In reply to Khurram.

Yes khurram good! you said it! Corporations are NOT pure! Was that so hard to see and admit to? Even the Jap ones. They have a lot of experience with cutting corners and lying.

https://www.pama.org.pk/annual-sales-production/

You can look through the data provided in the link. Historically Hino has had very good sales always. Almost every year. But see the trend. Year by year the Chinese buses/trucks have creeped on Hino’s sale. Last Fiscal year 2020-2021, the Chinese trucks sales increased by a good margin and over took hino’s sale. It has to start somewhere right? Now we see the numbers of that happening. Ignore them or study them, your choice.

for example the genius world record that Changan keeps on harping about, it was not given to them because engine performed well, it was rather awarded because of the length of the online video stream ever made”

genius world record” Really?! Or do you mean “Guinness World Records”? 🤔

Moving on. So, what you are saying is, something that has been acknowledged by the world media and by experts the world over, actually did not happen? It was just a case of a camera pointed at the engine and the camera was running for 259 hours and NOT the engine? 🤔🤯

Why? did they loop the video? couldn’t anyone tell that the engine was off? Why give changan the record and not the camera company who’s camera it was being used?

You say some one wrote about it. Please, if you don’t mind, can you please share something so we can see how the whole world was duped and only you picked up on the lie?

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By: Not a Robot.. https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-shares-sink-after-fraudulent-emissions-data-scandal/#comment-9359 Fri, 11 Mar 2022 09:54:50 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=50127#comment-9359 In reply to Khurram.

just wondering if cheating doesn’t affect the capability to perform its fine,, even if it endangers our future generations due to toxic emissions. so it means lying, embezzling, falsifying and every other evil doing is ok as long as the product performs… bhai WAH!

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By: TruongNguyen https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-shares-sink-after-fraudulent-emissions-data-scandal/#comment-9358 Fri, 11 Mar 2022 09:50:01 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=50127#comment-9358 👏]]> In reply to Khurram.

Ok so cheating is fine and forgivable when Toyota does it, but when any other company that isn’t Japanese does it, it’s a crime? Bhai wah! 😐👏

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By: Khurram https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-shares-sink-after-fraudulent-emissions-data-scandal/#comment-9346 Fri, 11 Mar 2022 07:57:10 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=50127#comment-9346 In reply to Tipu.

Does the cheating affect the product’s capability to perform? It is still doing fine and in fact in Pakistan Hino trucks and semis are still selling more than cheaper boxes made by Chinese. For reference read through reviews about Hino semi, truck and bus.
Anyway, acceptance of a mistake is something that must be appreciated, by the way, they were not caught, had they been, they would have been penalised just like they were imposed in Lexus’s recall of 2009 or as of late Hyundai and KIA were forced to pay penalties.
One thing more, yes I am fan boy, got a problem with that? If so then learn to ignore rather than creating a conflict by pointing me out as a fan boy. By the way, do you think that other corporations are pure, well I hate to break it you, they aren’t for example the genius world record that Changan keeps on harping about, it was not given to them because engine performed well, it was rather awarded because of the length of the online video stream ever made. The article is available at P.W. by author Fazal Wahab, you can read about it all. No one is pure, everyone has a guilt that is why we are called humans, but a good human is the one who accepts and then corrects his ways.

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By: TruongNguyen https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-shares-sink-after-fraudulent-emissions-data-scandal/#comment-9325 Thu, 10 Mar 2022 16:10:18 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=50127#comment-9325 https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-subsidiary-hino-admits-yearslong-use-of-fraudulent-emissions-data/#comment-9251]]> In reply to Tipu.

No no no… according to him they weren’t cheating, they simply committed a “mistake” and they very sincerely apologized for it 🙄

https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-subsidiary-hino-admits-yearslong-use-of-fraudulent-emissions-data/#comment-9251

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By: Tipu https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-shares-sink-after-fraudulent-emissions-data-scandal/#comment-9321 Thu, 10 Mar 2022 10:41:35 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=50127#comment-9321 In reply to Khurram.

whats so good old about this? they cheated & got caught. yes, and they were cheating for many many years. even their own investors are punishing them but here we hjave fan boys praising them for doing evil

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By: Khurram https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-shares-sink-after-fraudulent-emissions-data-scandal/#comment-9312 Thu, 10 Mar 2022 03:47:16 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=50127#comment-9312 Oh good, they are going to call-in stakeholders outside of the company maybe some institutional buyer is going to offer them first hand experience like the B.H.P. has been doing in the development of electric Land Cruiser J70. Good old Hino.

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By: TruongNguyen https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-shares-sink-after-fraudulent-emissions-data-scandal/#comment-9302 Wed, 09 Mar 2022 10:50:38 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=50127#comment-9302 ]]> In reply to Outside experts.

They will call in the British with their ever so reliable and engineering marvel vehicle design knowledge… 😛

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By: TruongNguyen https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-shares-sink-after-fraudulent-emissions-data-scandal/#comment-9301 Wed, 09 Mar 2022 10:46:39 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=50127#comment-9301 In reply to Engineers’ plight.

Great point, but then, the company themselves has ultimately caused this to happen! By not funding and paying enough to allow any sort of development in emissions quality and fuel efficiency of these commercial vehicles, what are these engineers even supposed to do? They certainly can’t do any development without any financial support from the company.

Toyota blaming their engineers for bad emissions is like a farmer kicking it’s donkey for fainting from exhaustion.

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By: Ali Khan https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-shares-sink-after-fraudulent-emissions-data-scandal/#comment-9298 Wed, 09 Mar 2022 09:47:34 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=50127#comment-9298 The statement at the end of the article says:

“…Hino commits to carefully reviewing the reports from the outside experts, taking effective remedial measures and reforming its corporate structure to put compliance first.”

So that means all these years Hino, and by extension Toyota, were NOT putting compliance first. They were just going along with fudging the numbers for years and keeping quite about it. Just because they were not being caught and compliance was not first on the agenda. Now that they are caught, now they are says that going forward they will put compliance first.

Excellent corporate responsibility and behavior.

Good old Toyota. Old and crooked.

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