Comments on: Toyota: “Time Will Show Our EV Point of View is the Correct One” https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-time-will-show-our-ev-point-of-view-is-the-correct-one/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=toyota-time-will-show-our-ev-point-of-view-is-the-correct-one Pakistan's Trusted Automobile Blog Sat, 11 Feb 2023 11:51:39 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Difference b/e call & action by Toyota re EV topic https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-time-will-show-our-ev-point-of-view-is-the-correct-one/#comment-13483 Sat, 11 Feb 2023 11:51:39 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=64747#comment-13483 In reply to Ali Khan.

Wholeheartedly agreed that the future is diverse, and those automakers who don’t have a product in each & every market sector will be losing out on sales – and profits as well as corporate average fuel efficiency targets.

But then Toyota is the one who wants to offer ICEs and hybrids but does not want to offer EVs, leaving the blue ocean open for other manufacturers who happen to offer either only EVs, or EVs as well as hybrids & ICEs.

Overall the calculation which talks about 1.1-KWh batteries for hybrids when the world is currently at >90-KWh batteries for BEVs, is not a physics or chemistry numerical problem. It is Japan’s political strategy failure to secure lithium supplies from over the world. Chinese, European & American EV manufacturers are having abundant supply of lithium from mines located in China, Africa and South America, and every year they are increasing the size of their batteries, one example being the recently facelifted Q8 https://carspiritpk.com/audi-brings-the-e-tron-quattro-suv-to-pakistan/#comment-13336.

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By: Ali Khan https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-time-will-show-our-ev-point-of-view-is-the-correct-one/#comment-13457 Fri, 03 Feb 2023 12:38:40 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=64747#comment-13457 🤷‍♂️🤯</span> Any normal person keeps the tank of their vehicle full of fuel regardless of their daily driving range. Doesn't that tank of fuel constitute as "dead weight"? <span>So does this means that this guy only ever keeps 30 miles worth of petrol in his car to "keep the weight down"?! 🤯🤔😕</span> <span>I've said this many times before. When fossil fuels were the only option, Toyota had </span><strong>no problem</strong><span> with that </span><strong>being the only option</strong><span>. So much so that even though they were one of the first to have a rather good EV on the market (first gen Rav4EV), they just ignored it! They even dropped their shares in Tesla later on. They, so far, have relegated their hydrogen fuel cell vehicles to being no more than show pieces and now want to burn it in inefficient hydrogen combustion engines! WOW!!! very "forward thinking"!</span> <span>"Lets not concentrate on one type of mobility", W</span><span>hy didn't this mentality enter the equation before the popularity of EVs?</span> These guys always seem to bang on about diversity. That diversity INCLUDES EVs!!! Why bad mouth it every chance they get? and then why turnaround and spend billons on EV tech and manufacturing facilities? Also, lets look at what Toyota has done with its diversity so far. It has <span>nothing to show for it so far except non working prototypes, an EV SUV that had its wheels keep falling off and now have an EV sedan in China made by a Chinese EV company BYD. Are they trying to diversify or buy it?</span> Why do they have such a problem with EV manufacturers? Toyota wants to concentrate on "many forms of mobility", the EV manufacturers have made EV their primary business and are developing fast at it. Other old legacy manufacturers are concentrating on EV; why does Toyota have a problem with that? This hybrid argument of theirs is getting old. They must give some proof of it. In the mean time here are some good authentic studies that say the same thing over and over again. Regardless if we talk about the on road emissions or full production cycle. EVs as a whole are Better for the planet and have lower emissions. https://afdc.energy.gov/vehicles/electric_emissions.html https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/electric-vehicle-myths https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/are-electric-vehicles-definitely-better-climate-gas-powered-cars https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/19/business/electric-vehicles-carbon-footprint-batteries.html]]> “…which has over 300 miles of range, but the car is typically driven less than 30 miles a day, which means 90% of the battery is “dead weight”.”

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Any normal person keeps the tank of their vehicle full of fuel regardless of their daily driving range. Doesn’t that tank of fuel constitute as “dead weight”?
So does this means that this guy only ever keeps 30 miles worth of petrol in his car to “keep the weight down”?! 🤯🤔😕

I’ve said this many times before. When fossil fuels were the only option, Toyota had no problem with that being the only option. So much so that even though they were one of the first to have a rather good EV on the market (first gen Rav4EV), they just ignored it! They even dropped their shares in Tesla later on. They, so far, have relegated their hydrogen fuel cell vehicles to being no more than show pieces and now want to burn it in inefficient hydrogen combustion engines! WOW!!! very “forward thinking”!
“Lets not concentrate on one type of mobility”, Why didn’t this mentality enter the equation before the popularity of EVs?

These guys always seem to bang on about diversity. That diversity INCLUDES EVs!!! Why bad mouth it every chance they get? and then why turnaround and spend billons on EV tech and manufacturing facilities?

Also, lets look at what Toyota has done with its diversity so far. It has nothing to show for it so far except non working prototypes, an EV SUV that had its wheels keep falling off and now have an EV sedan in China made by a Chinese EV company BYD. Are they trying to diversify or buy it?

Why do they have such a problem with EV manufacturers? Toyota wants to concentrate on “many forms of mobility”, the EV manufacturers have made EV their primary business and are developing fast at it. Other old legacy manufacturers are concentrating on EV; why does Toyota have a problem with that?

This hybrid argument of theirs is getting old. They must give some proof of it. In the mean time here are some good authentic studies that say the same thing over and over again. Regardless if we talk about the on road emissions or full production cycle. EVs as a whole are Better for the planet and have lower emissions.

https://afdc.energy.gov/vehicles/electric_emissions.html

https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/electric-vehicle-myths

https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/are-electric-vehicles-definitely-better-climate-gas-powered-cars

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/19/business/electric-vehicles-carbon-footprint-batteries.html

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