Comments on: Toyota to Close and Sell its Russian Plant https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-to-close-and-sell-its-russian-plant/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=toyota-to-close-and-sell-its-russian-plant Pakistan's Trusted Automobile Blog Sun, 10 Dec 2023 20:01:51 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Link to 1 relevant comment, are there any other? https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-to-close-and-sell-its-russian-plant/#comment-15253 Sun, 10 Dec 2023 20:01:51 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=58481#comment-15253 In reply to This is conflicting.

Quote: the continuous trumpeting of Pak auto industry employing 500,000 people which Ali Khan had challenged in one or 2 of his old comments. If he is around maybe consider linking to those comments as a reply below my comment.

https://carspiritpk.com/pama-concerned-about-new-import-mechanism-introduced-by-sbp/#comment-10911

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By: Mehdy Hassan https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-to-close-and-sell-its-russian-plant/#comment-12689 Sun, 25 Sep 2022 08:46:59 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=58481#comment-12689 In reply to This is conflicting.

thats an eye opener. just shows how corrupt these japanese auto mafia is and how dumb or partner in crime our govt officials are.

btw thank God we have blogs like this where we can openly discuss these issues. try doin it on pw or prop pakistani i bet ur comment will be deleted in no time

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By: Ali Khan https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-to-close-and-sell-its-russian-plant/#comment-12688 Sun, 25 Sep 2022 08:25:23 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=58481#comment-12688 I have mentioned it many times. The hundreds of thousands of indirect market jobs claimed by the local japs companies must be verified. How many stores do you know of which only deal in one brand specifically. (there are some but not many). Almost all stores keep parts for each brand. Are they double or triple counting the stores? They have convinced the government they are the back bone of the auto sector. That could not be further from the truth. Places like Shobha or Sultan ka khoo etc. are the life blood of the auto industry. Places like these were what ran the auto industry in Pakistan long before the three japs ever darkened our door. The only reason they make such measured claims in Russia is because they are aware that there is someone sitting somewhere in a government office who will verify what they put out and hold them accountable of any misleading claims they make. So they have to be careful. Not so in Pakistan. They know they have the run of the country and can pretty much do as they please. Just commit a little more "donations". Makes my blood boil!😡]]> In reply to This is conflicting.

You are absolutely right.

Our problem are the industrialists who are in charge locally. They are just as corrupt as the rest of the system. If a lie is easily accepted by the government and the masses and then regurgitated by the government and the masses, verbatim and without the need for verification, WHY NOT?!

The other major fault is with the government bodies who’s job it is to verify such claims. But they instead take the easy route and accept whatever these companies tell them. Company “donations” hard at work! 🤦‍♂️

I have mentioned it many times. The hundreds of thousands of indirect market jobs claimed by the local japs companies must be verified. How many stores do you know of which only deal in one brand specifically. (there are some but not many). Almost all stores keep parts for each brand. Are they double or triple counting the stores? They have convinced the government they are the back bone of the auto sector. That could not be further from the truth. Places like Shobha or Sultan ka khoo etc. are the life blood of the auto industry. Places like these were what ran the auto industry in Pakistan long before the three japs ever darkened our door.

The only reason they make such measured claims in Russia is because they are aware that there is someone sitting somewhere in a government office who will verify what they put out and hold them accountable of any misleading claims they make. So they have to be careful. Not so in Pakistan. They know they have the run of the country and can pretty much do as they please. Just commit a little more “donations”.

Makes my blood boil!😡

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By: Location of Toyota Russia factory https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-to-close-and-sell-its-russian-plant/#comment-12687 Sun, 25 Sep 2022 05:04:36 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=58481#comment-12687 https://www.google.com/maps/search/toyota+Saint+Petersburg,+Russia/@59.8079716,30.3990543,1331m/data=!3m1!1e3

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Toyota+Boshoku/@59.8074905,30.3878425,1378m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m9!1m2!2m1!1stoyota+Saint+Petersburg,+Russia!3m5!1s0x469625afbe455553:0xcb595d8c1a0dcade!8m2!3d59.8130146!4d30.4350323!15sCh90b3lvdGEgU2FpbnQgUGV0ZXJzYnVyZywgUnVzc2lhIgOIAQGSAQxtYW51ZmFjdHVyZXLgAQA

For those who are concerned about where this factory is located, since Russia is geographically very large, these 2 place markers will help locate, it appears to be just adjacent to Finland, Baltic Sea and Estonia.

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By: This is conflicting https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-to-close-and-sell-its-russian-plant/#comment-12681 Sat, 24 Sep 2022 17:36:08 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=58481#comment-12681 Toyota Russia employs 2350 people to build (produce? assemble?) 100,000 veh/year.
Toyota Indus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Indus employs 3349 people to build 65-70000 cars per year. Why? Is the productivity lower in Pakistan? Or the reason is that only 2 types being built in Russia vs 4 types in Pakistan: Corolla, Yaris, Hilux, Fortuner.

Needless to say the continuous trumpeting of Pak auto industry employing 500,000 people which Ali Khan had challenged in one or 2 of his old comments. If he is around maybe consider linking to those comments as a reply below my comment.
Note for Ali Khan: This — is really important. If Toyota is ceaseing & desisting from Russia, only 2000 people are being unemployed, it is mentioned above in the article. But when Toyota Indus &/or PAMA goes to pressurize/ask favors from the government in Pakistan, they always threaten the job loss of 500,000 jobs.

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By: Not a Robot.. https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-to-close-and-sell-its-russian-plant/#comment-12680 Sat, 24 Sep 2022 16:04:46 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=58481#comment-12680 are among automakers that have suspended production, furloughed workers, and halted imports, leaving a gap in the market for Chinese car companies.

this one line can change the sleeping schedule of jap fanboys 😛

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By: Ali Khan https://carspiritpk.com/toyota-to-close-and-sell-its-russian-plant/#comment-12679 Sat, 24 Sep 2022 15:58:43 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=58481#comment-12679 ]]> I hope its not a case of Toyota showing off now and later its begging Russia to let it back in because its one of the last few places left where it might sell its ICE and Hybrids vehicles… 🤔

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