https://bigbikereviews.com/honda-cg125/

According to this page, Sundiro Honda and Wuyang Honda sell EFI CG125. Sundiro has changed it to OHC, so the engine is quite different, but for Wuyang, it is the same engine as Atlas CG125 but with EFI. It is called Wuyang Honda WY125-19.

Wuyang is a formidable JV partner for Honda https://global.honda/en/newsroom/news/2006/c060228-eng.html

CG125 https://www.wuyang-honda.com/home/cpzs/ryj/qsj/detail-694.shtml
CG125 special https://www.wuyang-honda.com/home/cpzs/ryj/qsj/detail-1050.shtml
CG125 Limited https://www.wuyang-honda.com/home/cpzs/ryj/qsj/detail-1311.shtml

EFI is written as 电喷 in Chinese, and the pronunciation is “diàn pēn”.

There’s a police model as well https://www.wuyang-honda.com/home/cpzs/ryj/jyj/detail-864.shtml which comes with disc brake which looks similar to that of CB150F.

Randomly came across this press release https://global.honda/newsroom/worldnews/2008/c080722Honda-sets-PGM-FI.html from 2008 mind you, 15 years ago!

So the main features of this newly updated (at that time) model are: 3rd gen PGM-FI EFi system, 10% more displacement than previous model, 25% more torque, 18% less fuel consumption despite the greater displacement, toxic emissions only half what Euro6 allows!

All this because ‘Honda has set a 3-year goal to be “The No. 1 most admired company that is at the forefront of the environmental issue,” said Zenjiro Sakurai, President for A.P. Honda Co., Ltd.‘

Why can’t Atlas Honda think this way, enable to reduce the petrol consumption by 9% for the nation, enable to reduce the toxic emissions to half that of the already stringent Euro6 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_emission_standards? Keep in mind the tech under discussion is from 2008, it is nothing new. It can surely be licensed very cheaply.

Here is the text of the press release just in case it goes offline:

Honda sets PGM-FI, a green energy saving technology, as the Thai motorcycle standard via the launch of 2 new models
July 22, 2008, Thailand Corporate

BANGKOK, Thailand, July 22, 2008 – Honda takes the lead in the motorcycle market by introducing CZ-i 110 and Click-i, the two newest models equipped with advanced PGM-FI technology that will lead to a new riding era. The green technology includes 3 key benefits; fuel economy, lower exhaust emissions and better engine performance. Honda also features “Bie-Sukrit Wisetkaew”, a hot singer as its new presenter for Click-i , the first A.T. model with PGM-FI in Thailand. The company targets sales of CZ-i 110 and Click-i to reach 8,000 and 25,000 units per month respectively.

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CZ-i 110

“Starting this year, Honda has set a 3-year goal to be “The No. 1 most admired company that is at the forefront of the environmental issue,” said Zenjiro Sakurai, President for A.P. Honda Co., Ltd.
He continued, “We have announced the basic policy to the world that all the motorcycles produced and sold in Thailand will be equipped with the advanced PGM-FI technology, which helps reduce CO2 emissions that pollute the air, reduce fuel consumption and enhance engine performance. We are the first company within the Honda group to announce this type of environmental policy in Asia and in Thai motorcycle industry.”
With the PGM-FI system, the new Honda motorcycles will have the following attributes; improved fuel economy by 18% (ECE 40 MODE) and ability to use E20 fuel, reduced emissions meeting the Emission Standards at level 6 prior to its official announcement. The emission rate is only 1/5 of the Standards at level 5 and 1/2 at level 6.
PGM-FI (Programmed Fuel Injection) is Honda’s patented technology and now in its 3rd generation in the Thai motorcycle market with the first 2 generations of PGM-FI technology applied in the Wave 125i during 2003 and 2005.
In the 3rd generation, PGM-FI is controlled by an electronic control unit called ‘the Engine Control Unit’ (ECU) that works together with other advanced engine technologies such as fuel injection, fuel pump, throttle body featuring Idle Air Control Valve (I.A.C.V.), Offset, Heaterless Oxygen Sensor and honeycomb shaped Catalyzer with over 300 cells.
Honda introduced 2 new motorcycle models equipped with the PGM-FI system; Honda CZ-i 110 and Honda Click-i. Under the concept of “The New Advanced Basic Commuter for the Next Generation”, Honda CZ-i 110 is the best designed vehicle for urban lifestyles that serves target consumers as a ‘New Buddy for the City Life’. CZ-i is outstanding with its cool sporty look and design on the super sport model of “Compressed Triangle” concept. It also includes a Single Head Light, a multi-reflector light that is built into the front body frame, a compact fin-shaped Front Cowling that reduces drag, a compact meter design with complete instrumentation, a sport engine cover and U-Box, a multi-purpose storage box under the seat.
A new stylish rear cowling and foot pegs, a slick black rear grab, oval sport muffler, single-cylinder front disc brakes as well as key shutter, a double layer of protection. After the installation of the PGM-FI system in the CZ-i 4-stroke 110 cc engine, it achieved fuel efficiency of 57 km./liter or a 18% fuel saving over the previous 100 cc model (according to ECE 40 Mode), and 25% better torque.
CZ-i 110 comes in 3 different two-tone styles: White Red Solid, Blue Silver Sapphire and Dark Black Silver. It will be sold from 26 July onwards for 36,700 baht during the promotion and for 38,400 baht at its normal price. Sales are expected to reach 8,000 units per month.
Honda Click-i is Thailand’s first A.T. model that is equipped with PGM-FI technology and a total new look in robotic style reflecting its unique bodywork. It’s even more sharp with a Ray Duo Head Light, Luminous Meter, Jet Tail Light, large Rear Grab, robot-like graphics, U-Box, Front Inner Box and Key Shutter.
Click-i is fully equipped with innovative safety systems such as a Combi Brake that distributes braking power between the front and rear wheels when only the left brake lever is activated, Parking Brake that works the same way as a car’s hand brake preventing the motorcycle from moving even when parked on a slope, Side Stand Switch that causes the engine to shut down as soon as the side stand is lowered to prevent hazards caused by forgetting to pull up the side stand before starting the bike. Additionally, it is a 4-stroke 110 cc engine with built-in liquid cooling which also includes V-Matic Transmission using a long-lasting reinforced steel belt.
According to ECE 40 Mode riding tests, it achieves fuel efficiency of 49 km./liter or 16% fuel saving over the previous Click, and 80% lower emissions compared to Emission Standard at level 5.
To reflect its modern and cool image, Honda has chosen Bie-Sukrit Wisetkaew, a famous singer-artist, as the new presenter of the Click-i which comes in 2 different series; Click-i Tune-up and Click-i Forward. The first version has a normal wheel type, and comes in 4 colors; Black Mobile Suit, Green Black Kryptonite, Blue Black Atomic, and White Black Space, while the other version has max wheels and the Combi Brake system, and comes in 3 colors; Night Black Armour, White Black Galaxy, and Red Black Destiny.
They will be sold from August 6, 2008 onwards. The Click-i Tune-up is 45,700 baht during the promotion and 47,400 baht at its normal price. The Click-i Forward is 49,300 baht during the promotion and 51,000 baht at its normal price. Sales are expected to reach 25,000 units per month.
“In order to demonstrate the outstanding quality of PGM-FI technology, we are offering users a 5 year or 50,000 km warranty on the PGM-FI system which includes fuel injection, accelerating pump, Engine Control Unit (ECU), throttle body, throttle position sensor, temperature of the fuel vapor sensor and O2 sensor. Together, we have also trained over 1,428 Honda service centers and 5,919 repair & maintenance centers nationwide on PGM-FI Technology,” Zenjiro Sakurai concluded.

Quoted: The reason 50cc, 70cc and 80cc bikes are nonexistent in India is that with EFI on 100cc you can get the fuel economy of 70cc and the power output of 100cc so why suffer with smaller and powerless engine?

One reason for EFI bike engines being higher displacement is that the EFI system also needs current, which is another draw on power from the tiny engine. Let me give you an example most YouTube videos show that motorcycle engines with balance shaft have low vibration but less power because around 1hp is consumed by the counter-shaft. Similarly the EFI bike engine needs more current to power the ECU, fuel injector (and fuel pump + oxygen sensor if applicable). This is specially important in small engine “batteryless” EFI where the kick should be able to generate enough current to power up the spark plug, coil, ECU, injector etc.

Now don’t think it is impossible, even the small 49cc scooties come with EFI now, but if the fuel is being saved due to EFI, what is the problem in increasing engine displacement by 10-20% and increasing power as well as reducing the consumption as well as emissions, achieve 3 goals simultaneously?

I am very curious to know where the hell they exported these bikes, as even some third world countries have better bike standards and technology than us, and even the African countries are manufacturing their own bikes.

Come on, just a few days after this article, on 05 Oct 2k22 there is news that Atlas has managed to export 12,000 of their specimen.

https://propakistani.pk/2022/10/05/atlas-honda-has-exported-12000-motorcycles-in-last-6-months/

https://www.brecorder.com/news/40201586/atlas-group-exports-auto-parts-worth-2m-12000-bikes-in-6-months

https://www.pakwheels.com/blog/atlas-honda-exported-12000-bikes-in-last-6-months/

Hint: they talk about how it was made possible by a higher %age of localization!

Well said. Totally agreed. Even in modernizing the “awam ki sawari”, our leaders have completely failed! 😡

They are always screaming about reducing bills (fuel and otherwise). It will not be achieved by asking people to drink less tea. 🤦‍♂️ How about some real push for the local useless companies to modernize the decade old two wheelers?

Usually it is the governments that set rules for what is expected of companies over a certain period of time. Here it is the other way around. The companies dictate the rules to the government. They just play a simple game of “the price is right” with the government people first… 🤦‍♂️

As we are on the topic of half century no progress https://carspiritpk.com/almost-half-a-century-no-change-no-progress/, we must remember that the so-called “awam ki sawari” 70cc Chonda motorcycles have seen few technical upgrades since they were launched in the 1970s. Only the silencer has changed and breaker-point ignition converted to CDI somewhere around 1991, 30 years ago.

On the other hand comparable poor countries get much better fuel injected EFI disc brake ABS Euro6 and up to date technologies.
India doesn’t have 70cc anymore. Honda sells 110cc as the lowest disp. engine in 2 of its models.
https://www.honda2wheelersindia.com/cd110dream-BS-VI/ lowest price is ₹ 70,847.
https://www.honda2wheelersindia.com/Livo-BS-VI/ lowest price is ₹ 75,238.

Similarly Hero (a kind of chonda in India, using Honda tech and design under another name) produces lowest disp. 100cc bikes, and they have 4 models in this market segment with various trim levels. You can check it out here https://www.heromotocorp.com/en-in.html and it too comes with EFI.

The reason 50cc, 70cc and 80cc bikes are nonexistent in India is that with EFI on 100cc you can get the fuel economy of 70cc and the power output of 100cc so why suffer with smaller and powerless engine?
You can see more about the bikes in India on https://www.bikewale.com/ complete with the expected fuel economy figures.

Similar story with the bikes available in Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand and Vietnam, but let’s leave the hyperlinks for another day.

Now remember that 55% of petrol consumption in Pakistan is in 2-wheelers https://carspiritpk.com/blame-where-the-blame-is-due/#comment-9617, don’t you think that it is imperative to upgrade the bikes to EFI & Euro6 which will open up an opportunity of reduction in fuel import bills, current account deficit and pollution all at the same time?

Also, mobilizing a nation brings about progress. The more options there are for mobility, the more it enables people to commute further for work and/or provides opportunities for expanding businesses. Unfortunately in Pakistan the motorcycle has now been dubbed “awam ki sawari” by the people in charge. Cars, even very old and bad ones like the bolan and ravi have been made so expensive, they are out of reach for most. That is a step backwards. I remember as a kid, cars like the corolla xli were the cars for the lower middle class. The upper models of corolla and the civic were for strictly middle class. now these same cars are called premium. how the mighty have fallen…

Mobility-wise, we are on a constant backwards trajectory!

The simple answer, as long as we have the same type of people in charge… NEVER! 😤😡

Exactly!

The beetle moved forwards with the times. The japs in the case of bolan, ravi and mehran try/tried everything to move backwards. 🤦‍♂️