Comments on: IMC to Launch Local Assembled Toyota Corolla Cross in 2023 https://carspiritpk.com/imc-to-launch-local-assembled-toyota-corolla-cross-in-2023/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=imc-to-launch-local-assembled-toyota-corolla-cross-in-2023 Pakistan's Trusted Automobile Blog Wed, 25 May 2022 20:23:39 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: IMC's questionable forecasts and opportunism https://carspiritpk.com/imc-to-launch-local-assembled-toyota-corolla-cross-in-2023/#comment-10687 Wed, 25 May 2022 20:23:39 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=52927#comment-10687 Jamali uncle is wrong again.

We can confidently claim that [……] the import bill can be reduced by 50% if the country has 100% HEVs

A comment by “Reality of Euro2 difference between car and bike” in this article: https://carspiritpk.com/blame-where-the-blame-is-due/#comment-9617
Basically the whole article and the comments are jewels, but this comment is most relevant here because it totally discusses that 55% of the petrol is consumed by 2-wheelers (statistic from 2009). The comment also discusses that the 2-wheeler-to-4-wheeler is more skewed towards 2-wheelers now as compared to 2009. So Jamali uncle’s gonna bring hybrid motorcycles and rickshaws too? Or he can impact only the <45% petrol that’s going in to 4-wheelers? Even from that 45%, a certain %age is going into generators. Or just the few % diesel that is going into SUVs from the bulk being consumed in trucks, buses and electricity gensets?

Obviously the crude petroleum import is refined to get not only petrol but also diesel, jet fuel, kerosene, HFO, etc., all of which cannot be shifted to hybrid.
Now the major problem of the country is poor grid and unreliable electricity supply. That is why lots of factories use own power generation, most of which is not very clean, e.g. using Euro2 high sulfur diesel or HFO etc. How is Jamali uncle going to cut the petroleum imports into half when most of the fuel consumed isn’t even consumed in vehicles?

He must remember that his company chose to bring in Prius (the flagship hybrid of the world) as a CBU in 2013 https://www.toyota-indus.com/prius/ and has been unable to sell even a single unit of it.
https://www.brandsynario.com/toyota-prius-car-in-pakistan-indus-motors-fails-to-sell-a-single-prius-since-2013/

The reason of zero sales being they chose to launch it as a CBU which is overtaxed and expensive, yet Prius has ever been doing very good as a used orphan JDM import as accepted by that-time CEO Ghias uncle https://www.pakwheels.com/blog/toyota-indus-motors-failed-to-sell-a-single-toyota-prius-in-pakistan/Used Prius is considered better and cheaper than new Prius.

IMC wasn’t having any stomachache about ‘Make in Pakistan’, localization, GDP, petroleum imports, air pollution and emissions when 10 years ago they chose to deprive Pakistanis of the option of a decently priced locally assembled Prius as a CKD (same question also here https://carspiritpk.com/the-oligopoly-redefined/), yet now that the CUV, HEV and BEV market is maturing and is highly profitable per unit, IMC is bringing in an upscale CKD CUV? Will they bring an Aqua at prices = Yaris? Just like Atlas, Indus also thinks customers are fools https://carspiritpk.com/even-6th-gen-honda-city-is-unable-to-trouble-toyota/#comment-6934? Do they think that customers cannot see through the hypocrisy that IMC is not a trend-setter but a profit-seeking fence-sitter who will conveniently jump on the CUV bandwagon now that the market is ripe?

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By: Ali Khan https://carspiritpk.com/imc-to-launch-local-assembled-toyota-corolla-cross-in-2023/#comment-10683 Wed, 25 May 2022 15:25:32 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=52927#comment-10683 This is all just topi drama.]]> In reply to TruongNguyen.

Excellent point 👍

This is all just topi drama.

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By: TruongNguyen https://carspiritpk.com/imc-to-launch-local-assembled-toyota-corolla-cross-in-2023/#comment-10681 Wed, 25 May 2022 08:39:27 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=52927#comment-10681 🤣</span>]]> In reply to Khurram.

I do not doubt I.M.C.’s capability of pricing the vehicle this low they are highly profitable and thus are in position of lowering profits for increasing their market share.”

Big fat joke. Keep dreaming 🤣🤣

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By: TruongNguyen https://carspiritpk.com/imc-to-launch-local-assembled-toyota-corolla-cross-in-2023/#comment-10680 Wed, 25 May 2022 08:38:06 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=52927#comment-10680 🤣]]> In reply to Ali Khan.

…or cat food!! 🤣🤣

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By: TruongNguyen https://carspiritpk.com/imc-to-launch-local-assembled-toyota-corolla-cross-in-2023/#comment-10679 Wed, 25 May 2022 08:37:02 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=52927#comment-10679 ]]> Let me get this straight…

IMC is more likely to assemble new Toyota Corolla Cross in this country before they are ready to introduce 12th gen Corolla… I thought both of these cars were based on the TNGA architecture?
The same architecture IMC was reluctant to bring to Pakistan for four years??
And even if they managed to change their minds about the platform; what’s more easier to make and sell? A new name hybrid crossover or newer model of an already pre existing well known sedan? 🤨

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By: Do you own job instead of derailing https://carspiritpk.com/imc-to-launch-local-assembled-toyota-corolla-cross-in-2023/#comment-10678 Wed, 25 May 2022 08:33:41 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=52927#comment-10678 According to typical Pakistani culture, Indus Motors is not doing what it is supposed to do: assemble/manufacture cars. Instead, they are organizing 6th Journalists Summit 2022! What reason does it serve except a PR exercise to sway journalists’ opinion in Indus’ favor?
They should put focus on delivering fully-localized high-quality full-featured cars with minimal delay to customers instead of wasting their time here and there. Only once they have their act together should they look elsewhere.

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By: Ali Khan https://carspiritpk.com/imc-to-launch-local-assembled-toyota-corolla-cross-in-2023/#comment-10671 Wed, 25 May 2022 04:51:43 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=52927#comment-10671 Wow!

This person claims that 50% oil imports can be cut if all cars in the country are shifted to hybrid. I can do one better. I claim that 100% oil imports can be eliminated if all vehicles in the country are shifted to pure EV. I also claim that pure EV will be a God sent for eliminating carbon emissions generated by vehicles almost completely.
Toyota CEO Bhai phainko magar tol ke!

100 million for hybrids in Pakistan. Where are they? This 100 million we have been hearing for years… 12th gen Corolla and/or 12th gen Corolla hybrid; where are they? Hybrids assembly by all local desi jap companies should have happened years ago….

Production to be increased to 90000! Wow!!! Again, What good is that if the current production stands at around 80000, yet the highest ever achieved by these buggers is less than 65000. They can claim the assembly capacity of over a million if it will satisfy their bloated egos. Reality is much different and their production numbers very low.

I hope someone in the government realises this is one of the huge import bleeds that is killing the country. NOT used car imports or diapers or sauces etc.

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By: Khurram https://carspiritpk.com/imc-to-launch-local-assembled-toyota-corolla-cross-in-2023/#comment-10669 Wed, 25 May 2022 04:41:05 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=52927#comment-10669 It is good to see someone finally talking sense, not only he is actually stating a fact that even light industrial activity in Pakistan needs F.D.I. to catch-up in terms of quality but is also making a valid suggestion as regards to policy development.
Moreover, if the vehicle is really launched at this price, it is going give K.I.A. Sportage a run for its money, because Toyota is considered as a point of epitome when it comes to dependability, durability and reliability. Furthermore, I do not doubt I.M.C.’s capability of pricing the vehicle this low they are highly profitable and thus are in position of lowering profits for increasing their market share.

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