Comments on: Kia and Hyundai Under Dieselgate Investigation https://carspiritpk.com/kia-and-hyundai-under-dieselgate-investigation/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=kia-and-hyundai-under-dieselgate-investigation Pakistan's Trusted Automobile Blog Fri, 01 Jul 2022 11:14:52 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: suhail https://carspiritpk.com/kia-and-hyundai-under-dieselgate-investigation/#comment-11298 Fri, 01 Jul 2022 11:14:52 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=55192#comment-11298 https://www.quora.com/If-Japanese-did-only-copy-from-west-how-come-that-most-of-big-Japanese-companies-were-founded-long-time-before-WWII

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By: suhail https://carspiritpk.com/kia-and-hyundai-under-dieselgate-investigation/#comment-11297 Fri, 01 Jul 2022 11:13:42 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=55192#comment-11297 Japan had been copying from the west way before WWII.
Examples:
When the Portuguese arrived in Japan in 1543, they brought with them muskets. The Japanese quickly made their own prototypes of these muskets (in Japanese called Taibutsu) .Oda Nobunaga was one of the first daimyos to incorporate the use of muskets into his army. These muskets would be one of Oda Nobunaga’s key to success in his battles. The musket provided him a huge advantage over the traditional Japanese weaponry of his time. Oda Nobunaga’s success on the battlefield paved the way for Toyotomi Hideyoshi and then Tokugawa Ieyasu to unify Japan. The reason I think this example is relevant to your question is because we would not even be able to speak of a “Japanese” company if Japan hadn’t been unified. Prior to the unification of Japan, Japan was just a few islands segmented into many pieces which were ruled by opposing daimyos. These daimyos were at an almost constant state of war with eachother. We can think of the musket as being an exogenous shock to this equilibrium of constant civil war and which would eventually bring unification and peace to Japan.
In the late 19th century during the Meiji period, Japan underwent a period of rapid modernisation. Japan wanted to copy/mimick all the best aspects of the West: they wanted A Navy like the British, an army like the Prussians, A banking system like the Americans (later on they would change to one based on the Belgian banking system). Many experts from the West were hired and brought to Japan to educate and share their know-how. The brightest Japanese men would be sent abroad to study and then later would bring back their knowledge to Japan. A popular slogan of the Japanese government of the time was “Japanese spirit, Western technology” . It is precisely during this period that two of the big four Zaibutsu’s were founded in Japan.

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By: suhail https://carspiritpk.com/kia-and-hyundai-under-dieselgate-investigation/#comment-11296 Fri, 01 Jul 2022 11:11:44 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=55192#comment-11296 for japanese fanboys here

https://www.quora.com/Has-Japan-been-a-copycat-country

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By: TruongNguyen https://carspiritpk.com/kia-and-hyundai-under-dieselgate-investigation/#comment-11292 Fri, 01 Jul 2022 09:53:12 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=55192#comment-11292 </span>]]> In reply to Not a Robot...

will you answer or bark even louder?”

neither, he will only keep calling others by the names his father calls him with! 😁

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By: Ali Khan https://carspiritpk.com/kia-and-hyundai-under-dieselgate-investigation/#comment-11287 Fri, 01 Jul 2022 07:58:19 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=55192#comment-11287 In reply to Khurram.

Khurram, Unhinged and Uncensored!

You keep on accusing a particular group but ignore the actions of others just because it happened in the past which was before your time and does not register into your “alternative reality”/ conspiracy.

Here is a report from 1987 from fortune magazine:

https://archive.fortune.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/1987/12/21/69996/index.htm#:~:text=But%20when%20the%20U.S.%20wasn%27t%20willing%20to%20share%2C%20some%20Japanese%20companies%20simply%20copied%20with%20little%20regard%20for%20patents%20and%20other%20intellectual%20property%20rights%20that%20the%20courts%20have%20only%20recently%20begun%20to%20define%20in%20many%20areas%20of%20high%20technology.

if you don’t read it, which you wont, here is one pertinent highlight from it:

But when the U.S. wasn’t willing to share, some Japanese companies simply copied with little regard for patents and other intellectual property rights that the courts have only recently begun to define in many areas of high technology.”

The article is from over 35 years ago. Your Japanese did back then, what China is doing now. It got its hands on tech which ever way possible. Granted, even now, there are many illegal or improper methods used, lets not delude ourselves, but these methods were used by the Japs as well! Just because they used them before your time does not mean they did not happen and you can just ignore them to suit your conspiracy.

The Chinese copied. Some are still at it. But now things are changing. The Chinese are taking the lead in many technologies. They were the first to introduce PHEVs and have a great lead in mainstreaming EV technology. Including battery technology development and recycling. They are embracing the future. The japs are busy ignoring it to their own detriment.

And they (Chinese companies) are NOT stealing German or American etc. engineers. Those experienced people are themselves openly accepting job offers and working for them. You pay professionals and they work for you. That is how jobs work (incase you don’t know how jobs work.)

Lastly, the designers and engineers they hire are some of the biggest names in the industry. Their reputations, to them, are everything. Would somebody like that risk their reputations working for any company where there was any doubt? No they would not.

A talentless pig heart would always remain a pig heart.”

Excellent self-assessment!

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By: Mehdy Hassan https://carspiritpk.com/kia-and-hyundai-under-dieselgate-investigation/#comment-11286 Fri, 01 Jul 2022 07:53:43 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=55192#comment-11286 In reply to Not a Robot...

i would love to meet those ulemas and shower them with petals of flowers for cultivating such a mindset

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By: Not a Robot.. https://carspiritpk.com/kia-and-hyundai-under-dieselgate-investigation/#comment-11283 Fri, 01 Jul 2022 05:03:33 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=55192#comment-11283 In reply to Khurram.

once again Khurram starts to BARK and TRASH TALKS using BAD NAMES instead of answering with logic or proof. why no chinese companies are involved in cheating scandal ever?

will you answer or bark even louder?

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By: Khurram https://carspiritpk.com/kia-and-hyundai-under-dieselgate-investigation/#comment-11282 Fri, 01 Jul 2022 04:56:23 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=55192#comment-11282 In reply to Not a Robot...

A talentless *** heart would always remain a *** heart.
Tell me, does the word Math sound familiar to that illiterate brain of yours? Size and
geographical spread of the production matters but perhaps these things do not count for your brain because it is to underdeveloped to glean behind such points. Otherwise, had you even possessed a basic education you would have realised your idiocy before leaving such an illogical comment you talentless old pig heart. No wonder Pakistani economy is failing by the day, everyone wants to think and look larger than his or her true worth.
 
P.S. Corrupt Chinese you keep on praying to are nothing on their own they have been sourcing education from Europe, buying out European brands, stealing technologies from notable companies, collaborating with the Japanese and hiring German engineers.

Mod edit: bad words removed

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By: Not a Robot.. https://carspiritpk.com/kia-and-hyundai-under-dieselgate-investigation/#comment-11276 Fri, 01 Jul 2022 04:17:31 +0000 https://carspiritpk.com/?p=55192#comment-11276 wow. first europeans then doodh k dhulay japanese & now koreans. just wondering why no corrupt buffon chinese companies are involved in cheating scandal ever?

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