They most probably will.

If you check out the articles about Vinfast on carspiritPK and the videos below, Vinfast are most certainly out to get into the premium (EV) brand game. They are now mostly going to focus on EVs and shift over completely to EV only soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkjCW__3E6k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIesuezKkyU

Sorry for the late reply. I missed this one…😊

Heck, in a decade or so if we continue like this, Pakistan might be importing vehicles or assemblers from Vietnam.😤

And they’ll surely brand themselves as a PREMIUM car company, right next to the ever so premium and prestigious Hyundai!! 🙄

I really felt you on the Chinese vs Korean and Malaysian part. Pakistan could HUGELY benefit from a good automotive relationship with China. They have the exact products available which our industry needs! Their market is filled with locally manufactured people’s carriers like FAW X-PV, Changan Karvaan and many, many more. They have a huge quality small car market too, in both ICE and Electric options. And even if we go towards the “premium” options, there are B segment and C segment vehicles that are way better than what we locally get assembled such as power figures, fuel consumption, engine size, build quality, and creature comforts. Just look at Changan Alsvin and Changan’s C segment offerings- they’re making cars with reliable and actually tested 1.5l turbo engines spitting out almost 200hp, more than anything offered locally in Corolla or Civic.

It’s an absolute shame that our government is still going towards these Japanese “manufacturers” asking them to help build a “manufacturing industry” knowing damn well that they have done nothing progressive in the past 40 years and will continue doing so. It’s a pathetic shame that despite all the infrastructure development (like CPEC) and great relations with China since Day 1, they are still going towards these Japanese assemblers due to political reasons, when they could just go to these Chinese companies who are willing to come to Pakistan, form a joint venture and possibly get tech transfer and ultimately achieve the goal of becoming a “car manufacturing country” which they always talk about.

wow a whole paragraph on Khurram 🙂 now im ready with my popcorns to read 4 pages of Khurram’s answer to u 😀

Pakistan used to have a vibrant car culture with lots of vehicles of all types … from 2-wheelers upto 22-wheelers from various companies from all over the world: You name it we had it: American, British, French, German, Japanese, all of them.

Not only those but Czech (Skoda, Tatra), Russian (Kamaz), Italian (Lambretta and Vespa). There were so many even remembering all the countries of origin is hard!!

Well said!

Unfortunately, even seeing all this happening, our dear leaders refuse to do what is necessary and only listen to the biased advice of the original three; most probably because they have the longest time in the market with the greatest political pull. They are sill the biggest hinderance to the development of our auto industry.

Like I mentioned in another comment, Vietnam has their company Vinfast. They were established in 2017. In three years, by 2020, they were presenting their own local made vehicles in the Geneva auto show to great positive response. I’m sure there were quality issues. What first effort doesn’t have those. But they persevered and nailed their first presentation. All they have to do now is improve by addressing all the issues. Quality or other wise. Heck, in a decade or so if we continue like this, Pakistan might be importing vehicles or assemblers from Vietnam.😤

We had our first tries. All failed because they were not given a fair trial or any workable support from the government. Very bad on the part of our leaders. We should have been proud of what we had achieved. But we did everything to listen to the wrong parties and make sure they failed. Our bad.

But I hope now this self proclaimed “honest” government does work for the betterment of the sector and the economy and forces the old three assemblers (and the others) to buck up and start producing locally and stops listening to their ever present and ever expanding list of alibies and blaming everything but their own incompetence.

why are you so biazed on chineses car

I feel like you are the same Waqas who routinely participates in PakWheels blog’s comment section, so I assume you already know, but still I’ll let you know the answer to your this question. This comment is basically just a reaction to some of the nonsensical and fruitless conversations that took place in erstwhile articles.

There is one person who usually posts under the pseudonym “Khurram”. Most of his posts have no technical basis, just what he “felt”. He himself has professed to be a blind lover of Japanese brands, meanwhile he refuses to see the quick improvements Chinese, Vietnamese, Thai and other countries’ manufacturers have been made to their products. Not agreeing with others is his birthright, however he engages in lengthy tirades full of insults to other participants of the blog, routinely blaming many of them of disrespecting him all the while calling them names, accusing them of wrongdoing, challenging their knowledge, education and even the type of training they got from their family. He is smart enough to avoid swear words which could be filtered in the spam filter.

After this preface I’ll tell you why most of the members here do not like it when he professes blind fanboy-ism for Japanese brands. First of all it is his routine bad behavior everybody is tired of.

The next thing has to do with Japanese brands themselves. Coming from your previous posts, I gather that you’ve spent much of your life overseas. Pakistan used to have a vibrant car culture with lots of vehicles of all types … from 2-wheelers upto 22-wheelers from various companies from all over the world: You name it we had it: American, British, French, German, Japanese, all of them.

Then when Pakistan made it as a policy for national independence and national security to become a car “manufacturing” country, these Japs bandied together to drive out all competition, not on the basis of quality and service, but on the basis of banning imports and taking subsidies and relief from the government … which was understandably given using public taxes. Then they started producing obsolete,unsafe, featureless vehicles at exorbitant prices. The prices in Pakistan were higher than other low-tax countries and higher than other high-tax countries. So for sure Japanese cars are reliable and durable no doubt about that, but the Japs aren’t treating Pakistanis as good as they are treating other markets. Japanese cars available in Pakistan are more expensive than Japanese cars available in other countries. And at the same time they are older, low fuel economy, featureless, unsafe and overpriced. Car assemblers have been increasing prices up to 20 times per year! Yet the promised localization never happens.

Countries with much less purchasing power than Pakistan, war-ravaged countries, countries with far more poverty, hunger and disease – still have much better cars and larger variety of choice.

Now enter the new Chinese, Malaysian and Korean products under the ADP 2016-21. They are being thought as the messiah who will save the Pakistani public from the menace of overpriced and underdelivering Japanese cars.

Look at the Malaysian (Proton) they have been unable to deliver. For Korean products, Hyundai is posing itself as ultra-luxury and ultra-expensive – even more expensive than Mercedes BMW and Audi. For Kia they introduced older models and mostly only created new product categories of CUV on the top of the market. They refrained from providing what the market needs: people carriers, vans for commercial transporters and compact sedans.

So by far the only newcomers who are providing that are Chinese. The DFSK K01, FAW XP-V, FAW V2, Changan Karvaan & Changan Alsvin. Despite the fact that the Chinese products aren’t selling that much, it has had the positive effect on Japanese brands, they have improved their products. Honda was dragging 5th gen City since 13 years, now under the increased competition, they have had to release 6th gen City.

So meanwhile people know that the Japanese brands are responsible of creating all the problems in the local auto sector, the Malaysian, Korean have proven useless so far, only the Chinese brands have done something of substance till now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRhc9fcXByU&t=437s

https://www.carscoops.com/2021/04/the-best-worst-and-weirdest-cars-from-the-2021-shanghai-auto-show/

Here are some more Chinese concept cars if you are interested. Yes, cars from the company Ora do look like Porsche cars. However the reason is that the designer is an ex Porsche employee. That is what many Chinese car companies have done. Got designers and engineers from other well know brands; bringing all their experience with them. It is a good strategy.

What I really wanted to share are the other original Chinese concepts. They are stunners and they show the seriousness of these brands. Regardless of the age old argument of Chinese or not.

Like you said, in the beginning they did get licenses from other brands for using their old designs; in some cases. You cannot call that copycatting. That is legitimate. I.e., the FAW V2 was based on the old Toyota Vitz. Design and engine. FAW just modified the visuals to give it their distinctive look. Other times, yes, they did copy. Then again, the Japs copied the Europeans and the Americans in cars and bikes when they started out. So, its just a case of history repeating itself I think.

Bias can go both ways.