Look at you. You’re still insulting me and the others. Still being a hypocrite. Still contradicting against what you’ve said in the past.

Khurram, you’re only doing this just to feel better about yourself.

Oh look who is now barging in, the man who assumed that I did a thing to Xli tail pipe, the man who presumed that WagonR would become like Swift, even though Swift is of different class, the man who boldly stated that Bolan and Ravi do not have seat belt, the list is larger.
I do not lie, in fact I have admitted to Hay on Changhan Hunter related article that I have insulted Guest, Ali Khan, Truong, Not a Robot in response to what they said. If you are a normal, impartial and ethical human then re-read my response to Guest Global NCAP article, the man said I walk naked in public because clothes are embellishments how then should I have reacted. I am a human being and I took an insult out of it and responded.
As for my comments on Muhammad Ali Khan, well for that I am sorry to him and that is why I have never again responded to him, as far as I can recall.

P.S. Now you are raving clown who exactly other than the three of you I insulted on loader related article? Mr. Mujtaba asked, I responded without insulting, munafiqat jo maani did I did not name-call him I only asked why the retraction from original statement and explained him why the loader is unsafe. I did not even responded to when will he learn or ina jo ghumand?
P.P.S. I suggest that you re-read the comments and stop writing about things that are not even there you clown.
P.P.P.S. Where on earth are you now you fake id user? Or doing all this is now as per ahadees because educated Mr. Truong is now presuming about a person from middle income class.

Astaghfirullah. Don’t lie Khurram, you have insulted ANYONE that has replied to your comments multiple times, regardless of if they insult you first or not. Look for yourself:

Global NCAP Wants South Africa to Improve Vehicle Safety Standards – CarSpiritPK

You even insulted people who were shocked on your behavior on this site and simply pointed it out to you!

3-Wheel Loaders Eating Share of Suzuki Ravi? – CarSpiritPK

Changan Hunter Wins Best Pickup Truck Award in Saudi Arabia – CarSpiritPK

You call us out for spreading lies and assumptions, yet here you’re lying to everyone who has seen your behavior on this site (and other sites) and know you very well.

You make up for what you lack in arguments with personal level insults, like calling the opponent mentally retarded/unstable, of lesser caliber in knowledge/society, and assuming that the other person with a simple basic JDM is filthy rich and does not deserve to know about the needs of the many.

This person here even had the decency to thank you for being a bit more civilized with your upper comment than the other ones, to which you shamelessly and ironically proceeded to call them names.

It is completely useless to even argue with you anymore. Someone will give you a legit argument and you’ll just proceed to personally insult them, what’s the point?? You’ve already lost the argument before even starting it.

Abhi to sudhar jao bhai. Kab tak aise bacchon k tarha laro ge??

Brother after insults suffered at your hands yesterday, I am choosing not respond to you anymore. Because you are still doing what you always do, post question and then answer it by yourself.
By the way, you have already called this PKDM Alto an unsafe vehicle before so don’t post its records as a support to your argument please.

Here we go again, why do you pre-suppose? If I then in response to your unethical and non-Islamic habit lose temper you would bring in ahadees but never realise your mistakes.
Now firstly, are you not aware that a person can clap with two hands and not one hand. Secondly, if you are reading my comments then you are also reading what others are writing. Now tell me this, was there any reason for me to insult unknown people? Of course there was none.
Ali Khan, Truong and Not a Robot are not unknown to me now, read Truong’s reply to Mr. Obaid below, as usual he is insulting me and I shall return the favour. However, I believe it is foolish to write to you because you are choosing to take sides and point fingers at me and have even rejected the evidence already staring in your face.
P.S. Alto buyers are not the only middle class by the way my dear, there are people buying number of second hand cars, including Mehran so you cannot judge middle class preferences by Alto’s sale.

Aren’t you generalizing “needs of the middle classes” by superimposing your ideals/outlook regarding needs and wants on to others?
How can you claim the middle class thinks the way you do? If you argue that nobody cares for technology and simplicity and ease is the way; can you please explain why the new local assembled alto has, in a very short time, beaten sales records set by the Mehran? Don’t you think the reason it is more modern, with some actual safety features that can help in saving lives, has anything to do with it?
https://carspiritpk.com/suzuki-alto-breaks-highest-monthly-sales-record/

You have also latched on to “Maslow’s hierarchy of needs”, what you call “Maslow’s Theory”, to somehow justify your point of view. In Maslow’s hierarchy, one of the basic and most prominent need is “Safety needs”. This is further broken down to
Health
Personal Security
Emotional Security
Financial Security

By example of Maslow’s hierarchy, this increase in car technology fits into the “safety Needs” portion; especially under “Health” and “Personal Security”.
Currently, we have airbags, side impact and roof beams/struts for cabin rigidity, radar cruse control, lane keep assist and pedestrian safety warning and mitigation systems, found commonly in middle class cars in many countries which are on our level of development. In Pakistan unfortunately due to mismanagement and extreme corruption, such life saving advancements are out of reach to us. Unless we look at the used cars from Japan.

You, yourself, have sighted examples of things “going over your feet”. Imagine how many times people have been hit by cars due to driver error or pedestrian error. (This is life, mistakes and accidents happen.) How many times have children been hit and unfortunately badly hurt or killed (Allah keep everybody safe from such tragedies) because they have run out into streets without looking. In the old vehicles, such accidents are common place and the risk of such occurrences are high. In the newer vehicles which have new technology, just by having pedestrian collision mitigation or even just a warning system, reduces that type of accident risk by a lot. Lane keep asset helps in keeping the car steady on the road and in a lane and helps in driving. Radar cruse control helps the car automatically keep speed with traffic. As the article also points out, new cars have tech that measure your mood and/or drowsiness. If you are not paying attention to the road, they are designed to alert you.
(We can talk about autonomous driving but this will get too long.)
There is also the monetary side to consider as well. Such accidents carry with them a huge cost in infrastructure damage to roads etc., care for victims/hospital stays, insurance payouts etc. That is all a financial burden on the nation and on the people. All this is reduced if the proper safety measures are put in place to help in preventing such occurrence in the first place. This fits into “Financial Needs” of Maslow’s hierarchy.

A lot of JDM cars, even small ones like the JDM Alto come with a lot of these features like parking sensors or lane keep assist or collision waring or radar curse control. That is also one of the reasons the local assemblers demonize the JDM imports because they have technology that the locals will not provide. Simply because of greed; because they will eat into the local assemblers’ already massive profits.

All this technology arose out of the need for safety; which is one of the basic pillars of Maslow’s hierarchy. So, yes, I did look at that and it too supports the need for advancement. In fact the whole idea/theorem supports the growth and advancement that mankind has been following so far. In fact, Abraham Maslow wrote this “Maslow’s hierarchy” in his 1943 paper “A Theory of Human Motivation”.

“Old technology” is a subjective term. Why not buy a Ford Model T then?

Middle income class was buying a Mehran (2nd gen Alto) for 835k when it was replaced by 8th gen Alto (@ 999k at that time but now it has become more expensive just like all others), and voila, people paid 999k instead of 835k (just 19.6% more) for a 10 times superior product in terms of fuel economy, efficiency, comfort, safety and looks.
It is not the story of a single buyer, given the sales figures of 8th gen Alto are surpassing any sales figure of Mehran (https://carspiritpk.com/mehran-to-alto-660cc-for-pak-suzuki-the-change-was-good/).
Apparently the other middle class people are not sharing your views: apparent by the fact that they are voting with their wallet that 8th gen Alto is by far much better value for money than 2nd gen Alto.

Please grow some compassion for the middle class. If the technologies are manufactured at mass scale, they will become cheaper and the middle class being the majority in numbers, if they get these technologies it will be better for the entire society.

Another plausible marketing strategy is that the auto manufacturers can offer these as an option so the people who can afford them buy them, the people who are tight of budget can choose to exclude. This way if someone is in the market for a second hand car, they buy a top-option model and gain the same features at a depreciated price.

Your improvement in behavior is noticeable. Thanks for that. You are entitled to hold your opinion and express it freely just like anyone else … as long as the opinion is about the topic … not about the personalities or possessions of other commenters … no need to get personal with others … and I request everybody else also to avoid unnecessary jabs, parodies and imitating.

My dear sir, I at-least cannot guarantee my life for a second and you are reminding me about 2065. Anyways, you may disagree but I would prefer using, a simple to use and maintain, basic technology.

My dear, I assume when you said “we” it included me as well, so please do not suppose what type of technology I use or not. Secondly, my use of middle income class is clearly revealing what I meant. It is not I who is saying that technology is a luxury, in fact depending on its shape and the utility that can be driven by the user. Maslow’s theory and Economics needs theory is putting it into basic necessity or luxury.

No point in arguing with Khurram… prepare to get called a plethora of names and prepare to get your argument and ultimately your point get absolutely thrown out of the window.

Good luck… 🙄